System bottleneck?


Hi all. My system is made up the following:

Biamp with Parasound a21+ (LF) and Rogue ST 100 dark (HF)

Don Sachs 2 preamp, Marantz SACD 30n, Rega p3 tt,

Legacy Signature SE speakers, pretty good cabling throughout 

It all sounds very good together but if you were looking 

to upgrade where would you start? Just curious what others 

would see as weaker links in this system. 
 

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Showing 2 responses by ghdprentice

OP,

 

First of all… it is a completely reasonable question to ask. I learned 40 or 50 years ago that there is no end to how much better a system can sound… ok… to well over a million dollars. If you carefully choose what you purchase, double the cost and you will simply be amazed at how much better it sounds and how much more enjoyable your system is… over and over and over again. So, good question.

 

Doing a quick review of your system… it would be easy to suggest a turntable. But this is 2022 and I find it increasingly hard to recommend that route… you have to buy disks… they cost money, take up space… if this is a major part of your interest, playing with disks… great… TT and Phonostage.

 

But at this point in time you can do streaming at the same sound quality for roughly the same price… and it has a future and your music library is nearly infinite… with almost no cost (Qobuz… $14.99 / month). So if you are investing… you will quickly far exceed the sound quality of your current turntable by investing in your digital end.

 

I recommend digital. Now what is concerning is that you are not hearing a big difference in iPhone and TT… there is something very wrong. You should.

 

By the way, I have worked at streaming for fifteen years… iPhones, iPads, MAC, PCs (lots of different software), and finally dedicated streamers. Currently I own a flagship Aurender W20SE streamer and it is a bargain at $22K.

 

I would look to getting a good streamer and DAC. For a good DAC I recommend a Schiit Yggdrasil… this fits into your component cost scheme and will perform like a unit of twice the cost ( I own a Schiit Gungnir and had a Yggdrasil for a while). This gives you a solid DAC. Then you need a streamer. I don’t recommend going cheap on it if you are trying to build a solid g system. I would recommend an Aurender N100… used if required to keep the cost down. Don’t let the folks without experience make you think your going to get audiophile performance out of a MacBook or PC. Maybe as an interim step you can use a Bluesound streamer… but you are going to get a lot more out of a solid high end audio streamer (pretend it is the turntable if this was analog).

 

I don’t recommend spending any more on vinyl or CDs. Go straight for high end streaming. Then next step, we can talk about your preamp… that would be next… then speakers if you want to keep going. My systems are shown under my user ID.

 

Op… “What preamp and speakers would be a substantial upgrade to your ears?”.

 

My ears are highly influenced by the last fifty years pursuing high end audio. At first influenced by the ethereal sound of planar speakers… while trying to maintain slam. Then many years of listening to live acoustic music and realizing I was chasing something that wasn’t real… not that this is bad. But it would make electronic music sound better, but make jazz and classical sound worse. So I turned and went the dynamic speaker route and tube electronics. The change and improvement has been profound. My system used to make me enjoy listening to my system (literally) for forty five minutes or so… now I find it hard to pull myself away after a couple hours… I listen three hours a day. It is so musical, if I want to listen to details… they are there for me… so is glorious highly detailed bass. But my system is not a bunch of details with slam.

So, to answer your question. After you put the digital end in place. Go for an audiophile grade tube preamp… Audio Research, Conrad Johnson, or VAC. Buy used… not over 10 - 15 years old. These companies not only capture the first level of musical reproduction.. but layer after layer… layers you are probably not aware of yet. Like rhythm and pace… something that took me decades to identify and realize how important it is. These preamps give your system the magic present in real music as well as including details and bass.

 

Speakers, I am on my third set of Sonus Faber. I have moved up the product lines after my first purchase of used. I was struck by their unique sound about twenty years ago. Over time I realized it was their uniquely natural sound that matched the real,world… and an exceptional match with Audio Research equipment… how I got to where I am.

You do not have to spend a fortune to do all this. Used equipment can be the best way into the high end. I would read a lot of reviews from The Absolute Sound, Stereophile, and HiFi+ about the equipment produced by the companies I mentioned… contemporary and older… stuff you can afford as well as at their top of the line products. It will paint a picture of companies that know what top level audiophile products should sound like and have consistently manufactured them and advanced the art.