Synergistic Research Fuses vs cheaper ceramic fuses


I saw this guy from YouTube say he found a huge improvement using cheap ceramic fuses from Amazon.  I wonder if there's really any difference in these and SR Orange or Blue.  

Anyone tried non SR fuses?  There's GOT to be a better priced option that's just as good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB0t8q6axKE
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Experiencers and Negativists. Two camps. I suspect the first camp have better sounding systems.

How right you are. You have no idea. Come check it out some time. Freaking insane what can be achieved when you are willing to try. Especially if you are clever about what you try, and persistent. Absolutely freaking insane.
Very hard to teach fundamental reasoning skills so this will probably be a waste of time but someone somewhere might get something out of it.

So as you can see my post wasn't really even intended for you, and I hardly needed you to prove me right. All the same, thanks.
My question here isn't really whether SR fuses make a difference, it's are they better than cheaper ones from Amazon? Are SR REALLY better or different. I haven't found much at all on that. 

So I certainly have done some homework and found most threads turn into bickering back and forth making research a waste of time.


Very hard to teach fundamental reasoning skills so this will probably be a waste of time but someone somewhere might get something out of it. So here goes. 

It helps first to know what the heck you are talking about, and to have a goal. Are you talking about sound quality? Or construction? Is your goal sound quality? Or something else? Really no point in your doing any research until you are able to answer these two questions. Which on the evidence so far, doesn't look like you can. 

For the sake of the argument we will assume you give up on your construction nonsense and come down on the side of looking for sound quality. Okay. No contest. There is no argument. SR are superior. By far. 

The only argument you will find is from people like yourself questioning how and why. These kinds of things almost always come from people with no actual experience. Whereas virtually all the people who actually bother to listen wind up gushing amazing compliments and describing how much more clarity, dynamics and detail they are hearing, how much more real and palpable the image is, and so on. The reviews are all over the place. Reviews from people who actually paid money and bought the stuff and heard it.  

People who have not done this, what they have to say is worth precisely zero. Absolutely zero. 

Next point, why you are mistaken to be concerned with construction. The fundamental problem with high end audio is that everything, all the best stuff anyway, is being done at the sharp end of the spear, pushing the envelope, where things are not yet very well understood. Like Yeager trying to break the sound barrier. Now we do it every day. Back then they thought it was an actual physical barrier. Planes broke up. Pilots died. Pushing the envelope. 

Now there are fundamentally two different ways we can push the envelope. A good example of one is Wilson Audio, making behemoth insanely expensive speakers that really do nothing new at all, just with better more esoteric materials. A good example of another completely opposite approach is Tekton Design. Eric Alexander uses exceptionally ordinary MDF boxes, ordinary off the shelf drivers, and minimalist crossovers. But he uses them in a technologically unique way that allows 14 little tweeters to deliver the sound of one 9" midrange.  

Don't mean to be pedantic, but what this means is you can look at Tekton the way you look at a fuse and completely miss the big picture. You cannot judge a Moab by the ordinary drivers any more than you can judge the Orange Fuse by it looking like a Buss.     

Synergistic uses a Tesla coil to permanently re-orient the wire. They apply some treatment as well. Plus probably some other cool stuff Ted won't tell me about. What he did tell me, they have done the Tesla thing so much they have figured out different methods that produce different results.  

Should go without saying you can look at that fuse all day, take one apart, dissect the bejeesus out of it and never see any of this. So all your talk about construction is a total waste of time. 

Buckminster Fuller predicted this 50 years ago by the way. He called it the ephemeralization of technology. The technology becomes so advanced it is ephemeral, intangible, nothing you can see, touch, smell, etc. Safe to say I think when you are rearranging quantum levels of atoms in wire you have reached ephemeralization. 

Hopefully this explains why it matters precisely zero what anyone who has not listened has to say. Why you need to stop questioning and get up and go try and hear for yourself. Go and listen. You will see. 

If you care about sound quality, that is. Do you? 
They totally matter. Obviously. 

The thing about the interzones, everything is already here. When I hear about something new and interesting the interzones make it easy to search out all the info and usually in a heartbeat. 

When I heard about fuses that is what I did. Within an hour I had learned so much it was a no-brainer to get some and try. Never once came on here asking anyone anything about it. Why? All those questions have already been answered. 

Like, adg101 is unsure if glass can "sustain the process" of cryo. But there are countless on-line sources that make it clear you can cryo just about anything. I had tubes and all my wire and even a whole CDP cryo'd. Cryo is baby steps compared to the stuff Ted is doing with his fuses. Teflon tape is stone age. This is like 30 years ago putting the CDP on a phone book. This is like, "I wonder if my speakers would sound better pointed towards me?"    

Imagine if, instead of asking what-if to whatever few people happen to be on one little forum at one point in time, imagine if they used their keyboard instead to look and find the answers from everyone across all time. Then they could go and do, and in the process figure out their own way of doing it even a little bit better, and come back and tell us all about that.   

Imagine that.