Synergistic Orange and purple fuses popping


 

Synergistic Orange and purple fuses popping


I recently upgraded all my gear with the new Synergistic orange and purple fuses (15 in all) What a difference! My Cary SLP-05 preamp with 8 Vintage Tungsten  6SN7 tubes is having problems with the Orange and Purple Synergistic fuses in the power supply. For some reason when I turn on the preamp amp after warming up the powersupply unit, the 2 power supply fuses pop. So far Synergistic has been gracious and replaced them twice now. I increased  the 2 large slow blow fuses from 1amp to 2amps after asking Cary audio what I should try. I also spoke with Synergistic and they agreed their fuses are sensitive but all the stock fuses I ever used have worked flawlessly. Any body out there with any similar problems and maybe a solution? Any upgraded hi-fi fuses that may be less prone to popping? I think it may be due to a current rush (tube related) when I go from off to on. Help!

Thanks

gregtheis

Showing 7 responses by oldhvymec

I've had 5 different Cary tube products they all used the 560uf filter caps in the power supply. Mine all did the same thing they were all older units too. They would start running hotter and I had to be very careful flipping from standby to on. They would pop a fuses. I'd change the 2 or 4 560uf caps and the problem would go away. They will leak oil too. LOL I thought I had an old Harley the first time one took a dump. Left a puddle of oil. :-)

I was using ACME at the time in my Macs, Carys, VTL, Threshold. I was given SR to try. I wound up paying for blue and orange fuses. 10 or so..

Regards

Not coupling/decoupling caps, FILTER CAPS. 

Here is the rub. There was a thread about V12i blowing fuses on the forum, HE had sent it to Cary, They did a (so called) complete rebuild and they started blowing coupling caps.

I told him my story and sure enough Cary had NOT replaced the filter caps but everything under the sun including one transformer.

Cary gets it back and replace ONE bad filter cap and one blown coupling cap.

The tech, was assuming the guy before him (AT CARY) did replace the filter caps (He didn't). The customer gets it back again and this is when I read his thread complaining about Cary. I would too.

He post a pic off site you can see they didn't even do a Hexfred upgrade but changed all these big old honkin' coupling caps. You know what it takes to charge big caps? Ask the filter caps that blew.. LOL

The whole story is He had 3 V12i. 2 mono one stereo. ALL started doing the same thing.

After Mr. Ralph, chimed in and confirmed my suspicion, the guy quit posting about his amps.

I have no idea what he spent, but V12i mono blocks or stereo amps are a sight to behold and listen to if they are done right. Blown up they are just a sight.  A Cary V12 - V12r should outlast my grandchildren. I paid 165.00 plus postage and tax for all 4 560uf filter caps. I paid almost that per coupling/decoupling cap combo. Copper foils and teflons. Magic!

It takes me about the same amount of time to swap and bias valves, (10 minutes) vs. swap out all 4 FILTER caps.

BTW I offered to fix his Cary for FREE, if he would pay for the parts and shipping. Silence!!! :-) I am still looking for a second V12r. My wife won't give me mine back. I'm using a MC225 and a MX110. Women. :-)

Regards

OP Fuses are in the ears of the listener, I seldom recommend a brand. I use SR blue and orange. I also use ACMEs very good fuse.

Those speakers are heavy. Man alive. I've tipped up a few over 600 lbs. Heavy enough. :-)

Cary likes fancy fuses, and a good power cable. My Mac, Threshold, First Watt or VTL didn't give a hoot. Huge power supply usually means fuses don't do squat. :-) A large enough and well constructed power cable is a different matter. Everything likes the right PC. 

I'm a small planar/ribbon guy. My monitors are hybrid line source design. 425lb each but there is no bass of any kind in them. GRs servo and my SAT Bass Columns. I'm a happy camper.

I have a couple of friends that get mad about the whole fuse thing. Me I'm an old beat up heavy mechanic. I haven't seen everything, but I sure have seen a lot. Either they sound better or they don't. 50/50 for me. I think it's because of the age and type of gear, fancy fuses affect my gear less.

Regards

Well being able to use it is a good start.. :-) I have to roll a C2500 in and a C45 out of my system. I'm so lazy! :-) BUT I just got it fixed. Wife is driving me nuts as usual. She will listen for 2 days and come out with a list.. LOL Good ears. The FIX will be a pair of matched Blackburn or Telefunken. 

I would like to try a Cary pre like a 98 or 05. I'm so use to tone control and Mac, tough to change. I've heard a few Carys though...

Happy Happy..

Good! :-) If I don't do anything but have people prove me wrong, you still got a fix.. That's better than eatin' bugs. :-)

Time to feed the chickens! Come on Dog.. 

Regards

I did see a Trailer full of class D amps catch on fire in Brazil (I think) it was a BASS hootenanny and the thing overheated. Large generator trailer to power it.. Burnt right to the ground once the aluminum and magnesium caught fire.

I run Mac, Cary, VTL, DIY all are in metal cases, where is this fire suppose to happen at? I don’t own a single piece of gear that can catch on fire and cause a fire in any of my rooms. I could see if maybe a carpet caught on fire or the drapes. All of my gear is on something that can’t catch fire. Even the carpet can’t catch fire.

Am I missing something? Fuses in my gear are for GEAR protection, it has nothing to do with my protection, or my house. My home is protected by breakers. I don’t have any fuses on my stove or dryer or hot water heater or blower motor for the house, the well pumps, the TV or the computer or the plug in wall heater or the heating blanket or the heat lamp for Jr, or my back massager or my FRIGGIN ELECTRIC JACKHAMMER.

You people are NUTS. Fuses in stereo gear are to protect THEIR junk not YOURS.. Good lord what a bunch of numb nuts..

A Cary V12R has 5 fuses FIVE! That is for fire protection.. It was for Mr. Hads Amps not my house..

cakyol, you know better than that BS. Burn down your house with an amp. Funniest thing I EVER heard. The house has circuit breakers. The amp has stupid protection that all.

Here is a good one a guy buys a solar battery and put it in his house to run his stereo. BUT it gets hot and the fans come on. So he takes the heavy steal case OFF the battery and tells me he didn’t cause a potential fire issue. That is the only thing he did with a lithium battery in the center of his house. He was so stupid he could not understand the danger by removing the vapor and fan cooling control. He was preparing a bomb on his living room floor for him and all his apartment neighbor to enjoy. IF he would have left the metal case intact it was a bad idea. Lithium batteries blow up. NEVER locate large lithium batteries or even a cash of smaller ones inside a domicile. BOOM..

Stereo gear not so much.. maybe a tube fire it's all show and GLOW in a tube..