Surface Noise - another question


On a scale of 1 to 10, my surface noise is about a '1' (1 is low, 10 is high). I have a TNT Jr. w/super platter and upgraded flywheel motor (VPI belts), JMW 10.0 arm, a Benz Glider (High output-not the new 'S' - about 8 years old but probably only 200 hrs on it), Cardas Phono cables, and an innersound phono stage (not set to high gain, 47k ohms, 100 micro farad capacatance setting). I use the Living Voice Carbon record mat and BDR record clamp. I am referring to basically new records, cleaned w/VPI 16.5 with Walker Audio 3 step (or Needle Dr fluid), and Milty Zero Stat. Stylus is always cleaned with either magic eraser or Needle Dr. or the Zero Dust and cartridge is recently degaussed. Rig is as perfectly leveled as possible, on a Billy Bags Pro Stand. VTF set to high side of mfg recommendation - 2.2 grams; speed dead on (VPI SDS, KAB Strobe), VTA is dialed in as all is in focus and azimuth must be pretty close to dead on as my soundstage is spot on. Here is my question - how can I get the surface noise down? (I have heard rigs with NO surface noise). Assuming records are in as perfect condition as you can get, do you think it is the cartridge that is giving me the little surface noise; phono stage? Other? (New TT?)

Appeciate the input of the vinyl gurus - I'm sure you have the answer.
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Hifihvn, great piece of info. I never thought about that. I have found that the cartridge makes the most difference in quiet for me. I recently got a higher output cartridge, that is better shielded, and man, everything has gotten MUCH quieter.
The only records that are completely quiet are those I bought in high school and played once to record to cassette. Put in archival sleeves and then they were then misplaced for 15+ years, recently found last year.
What a difference 2/10th's of a gram makes! I set vtf at 2.0 instead of 2.2 and surface noise is absolutely gone. (not talking ticks & pops but the sound of the record surface passing under the stylus). Having an incredible time playing records. Just played my 1983 Linda ondstadt "Whats New" and it was dead quiet (with the exception of a tick or two).

Thanks, everyone. Appreciate all of your input.
The only time I hear surface noise is if a record is scratched, or isn't clean, or if the stylus needs replacing (a good indicator if you're in need of a re-tip).

Other than those there's no surface noise at all - records are completely silent (err.. apart form the music.. ahem!).