Supratek Tubes and Tube Swappin' for Everybody


I will have a Supratek Chenin in my set up in a day or so. Since so many folks are rolling tubes around here I was hoping to garner a comprehensive list of everybodies favorite tube compliments. Be it NOS or NIB or WLATB (Whatever's layin around the basement)
Being that the "Deal of the Century" thread is a little more like a novel I figured this would be a good place to post questions and answers related to one subject of Supratek amps and pres.
On to the subject of me. I don't have immediate plans to swap tubes as I've figured that Mr. Maloney would supply us with something listenable for the break in period. But, since so many have reported such dramatic improvments I want to ask this question:
What is your favorite compliment for quietest gain and dynamics in the phono stage?
I will be using the Chenin exclusively for vinyl ( I don't have a CD player) and listen to loads of early rock and roll and Jazz bands, smaller jazz bands mostly, quartets and quintets. Some classical, the usual Beethoven and Mozart, but usually just a lot of loud garage rock.
Ok, now lets see what happens.
mc5baby
Geez, Wc65mustang, why dump on Ecclectique?

He has been very helpful to many of us here with tube rolling. And I personally have corresponded with Mick several times about tube rolling and his only advice to me, aside from offering appropriate substitutions, was to beware of unscrupulous tube dealers selling counterfeit NOS tubes. Didn't need the warning, but I appreciated it none-the-less.

And I find it interesting that you are bustin' on Ecclectique about tube rolling when I came across this thread initiated by you:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1081292815&openusid&zzWc65mustang&4&5#Wc65mustang

It seems in the case of the "Aesthetix Rhea" YOU are asking "amateur audiophiles with mid-fi knowledge and components" for their advice, but with the Supratek you are hammering Ecclectique for trying to help the rest of us. Don't you think the "owner and designer" of Aesthetix also knows what's best for the Rhea? Why is it anymore inappropriate to change the stock tubes that the designer chose in a Supratek than the stock tubes the designer chose in the Aesthetix?

As long as Ecclectique's advice is correct regarding the electrical characteristics of tube substitutions, where's the beef, especially in light of *your* thread which I linked above.
Wc65mustang,I think Ecclectique and Jazzdude are very knowledgeable and very helpfull guys ,,,please be nice,
Wc65Mustang-Ecclectique's contributions in this forum and many others is immeasurable in both amount and value of knowledge and a great help to many. I await your response to Fiddler's question as well!
Raytheprinter says "are very knowledgeable and very helpfull guys ,,,please be nice"

Knowledgable is relative and helpful is questionable; the fact remains that the designer and builder does not recommend what these quasi audiophiles are doing. So keep on rollin' ladies.
Nice dodge, Wc65mustang!

How about answering the question regarding the Aesthetix vs. the Supratek.

Only a "lady" would weasel out when she was caught with her hand in the cookie jar!

And yes, "Knowledgable" is "relative"...especially when it is spelled wrong.

Either find a legitimate reason to criticize tube rolling in the Suprateks or go waste other people's time. Virtually every tube product made benefits from rolling tubes from stock tubes to NOS. The Supratek is no different.