No idea what your current table looks like, but just remember everything can pick up vibration, though the table and shelf you posted (particularly the table) don't seem to have many large surfaces to pick vibrations up, other than their 'work' surface. So they're probably better than what you've now, but no garauntee they'll not have any other issues |
The springs route isn’t all that complex, I’m more than happy to help where I can..
Placing my turnable on a spring suspended butcher block platform reduced significantly any sounds caused by hitting my rack. I really have to hit it hard to get any sound to transfer to the speakers.
If the coupling/shelf route doesn’t quite work 100%, you should definitely consider springs.
That being said, rollerblocks seem like they'd add isolation in the horizontal plane as well as isolation from torsion, which certainly wouldn't hurt. |
A spring suspended platform isn't cumbersome at all if made well. Check out my system page. I think my platform looks rather nice. Even on a shelf on a concrete wall, there are seismic and airborne vibrations. |
@noromance ha! Yeah, the wooden balls are a little misleading. I sanded divots in the platform to keep them in place and they have some Teflon tubing inserted into a hole in the top that goes into the bottom of my TT plinth to keep everything stationary and still allow a bit of wiggle. I mostly did that because I removed the power supply and motor from the plinth and mounted them on a wood and granite mount I made. That necessitates keeping the plinth and motor mount in the same place relative to one another. For your use, you could just make an isolation platform and plop your TT on top, done and done! |
It's the second part mostly.. an open area between the speakers is supposed to increase depth and imaging. Though I'd imagine the sound waves would be stronger between the speakers than nearer the listening position as well. I, of course, break that rule with a console and a TV between my speakers. But that's how it goes sometimes. |
Probably. Glad to be of help.
Definitely post back with your impressions once you’ve sorted it. I love hearing how it all works out. |
@slaw your knowledge was very helpful in setting up my spring platform. I also utilized a lot of info from @geoffkait and others. There was much good info on the isolation thread a while back, and I appreciate you contributing to it.
My point in saying you need to drink less coffee or get laid, was that you’ve been popping into posts like this and laying out some knowledge, then getting upset that people aren’t instantly acknowledging your brilliance and jumping up and doing exactly what you say.
It’s not like you came over to my house and set things up. You shared info. Good info. But I still gathered other info, selected materials, made plans, built and adjusted my platform on my own. You’re acting like you did all this for me and I’m ungrateful. I acknowledge your help. And I appreciate it, as I’ve said before. But you need to stop acting like you are the grand master of isolation and we all need to hang on your every word and offer endless flowing praise at every opportunity.
If you keep that up, you’ll be know for being a-- rather than a knowledgeable member whose advice is sought. |
I am getting my gear together to head out on a beautiful fall day to do some rock climbing..
For the love of God, slaw, let it go. I am not pretending to be an authority. I did not add 'coffee' recently. You can't edit posts after 45 min.. I have never used a wall mount. I am simply passing on info I have gathered from others. If you look back at the isolation thread, ages ago, you'll see I thank you there as well. And I never said I think you're an ass. Though we are heading in that direction. I simply said that your confrontational manner and insistence that everything is all about you will lead to that perception, which will take away from actually being able to share knowledge in a meaningful way. Half of the message is how it's delivered..
I will add that concrete walls and floors will at least negate the need to worry about keeping the shelf level due to the expansion/contraction of wooden structures. |
Let’s stay focused here: no one said a wall shelf would be the end to all vibration issues. I certainly didn’t say that. My recommendation of a wall shelf had to do with having less stuff between the speakers, helping to improve sound, which is a well established concept that I do have familiarity with. So maybe more careful reading of the whole thread would lead to less strife.
Looking forward to your findings, noromance.
And yeah, we are a crazy lot. Happy Sunday all! |
And Slaw, I just went back and re-read all your attacks on me after my last post. Man, you're a handful, aren't you?
You're basically telling me that if I'm not listening to my system at every opportunity, if I'm not trying everything I suggest, then I shouldn't contribute..
You are rather aggressive with me, no?
What exactly did I suggest that was incorrect? Am I leading people astray?
Doubtful.
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder that I didn't thank you endlessly in the first thread we interacted on. If I have slighted you in some real way, please let me know and I'd be happy to apologize. I'm not a big fan of animosity. |
Even if you don't have fault lines under you, even if you live on Australia, one of the most geologically dead places on the Earth, there are still seismic movements as the crust rides atop the mantel, as large trucks rumble down highways, as industry does its thing. The Earth is a noisy orb. |
I've had good success cheaply using springs under my components if they have a very rigid/flat chassis. Otherwise, I've been using cutting boards and putting the component on the board.
Getting the spring ratings correct is the hardest part and it's not that difficult. Plus, springs cost approximately $1 each, so I just purchase a few load ranges/sizes each time I order.
Next, I'd like to try platforms combining two different materials, such as wood and granite. Or two layers of granite...
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@slaw hi. I hope you've had a great day. I spent the day in the Ozark mountains, helping coach and organize a middle and high school mountain bike race. I've had no reception since I posted those humorous retorts to your posts this morning. So, any posts removed (mine and yours) were removed by a moderator with absolutely no input or requests from me.
My freshman son took 4th place in this race and 5th overall for this, his first season. So proud! |
Also, slaw can get downright mean. Geoff just gets weird. Definitely different peeps |
