Super Scoutmaster or Teres?


I'm looking to upgrade my VPI HW19 Junior turntable and after speaking at length with Mike at VPI today, I'm close to deciding to get the Super Scoutmaster. Before doing so, I'm wondering if a Teres 245 or 255 turntable would be the better choice. With a $900 Origin Live tonearm, the Teres would cost about a thousand dollars less, and I've heard great things about their tables, especially their motors. On the other hand, I feel comfortable with the stability of VPI as a company and am impressed with the basic turntable that I have. I also like the outer ring clamp that they provide to hold down the vinyl. I'd like to hear your views.
mlkiz

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pity....and therein lies the problem with purchasing very low production hand made stuff...in a few years selling one used may be difficult for those that have one....VPI will still be in business and supporting its product more than likely.
I would not worry about whether Teres will be around in a few years or not. Basically, if that is a concern buy a spare bearing. Any quality motor can be substituted for the Teres motor in the event of a failure and inability to obtain a replacement.

I would, furthermore, urge you to consider the Scheu Premier Mk II. It looks a great table and I've seen two for sale in the past couple of years; both sold instantly for more than used tables typically sell for. Chris Feicker/Scheu advised me a Premier II with the dual arm option and a Scheu Classic Unipivot (12" version) would cost 2200 US including shipping. As there is no sales tax involved that has to be the deal of the century for a reference class turntable. The 12" was recommended by Chris when I mentioned my usage of Denon DL103R cartridges.

Teres, Scheu, top of the line VPA; take your pick as they are all up there in the top tier of table.
You contact Scheu directly. That was the price I was quoted a couple of months back and was surprised; maybe they made a conversion error as that included shipping, too, which must cost a bit from Germany to California for a 70 lb table. Contact Chris Feickert at this address:
webmaster@scheu-analogue.com

If you send me your regular email address I can forward you the pricing list that Chris sent to me. The Premier with the 12" arm was hard to beat. They will also make you a deal on an Allaerts cartridge; not cheap but one of the best. My email is c123666@comcast.net

Bear in mind that I think this quote was for the two tonearm model, too. Being able to accept a 12" arm opens up all sorts of possibilities (morch 12", sme 12", ikeda, fidelity research, scheu arms).

Another arm to consider is the one made by Carlos Morsiani. It is a hand made unipivot design he will supply in 9 or 12" length. Carlos recommended the Teres and Scheu hands down over any other turntable (except for his custom creations, of course). His arm is about 1000 US landed and an excellent value as he will make it to suit the type of cartridge you like to use.
There is more than one model. I think he calls it the CM1 . Yes, the wooden one is exorbitantly priced and I'd go for a Schroder before that mostly for resale value. The other one can be had in a standard arm or a 12" arm and Carlos will set the arm up for the type cartridge you wish to use it with. Here is a link to a TNT Audio review:
http://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/morsiani_e.html

Here is the link to Carlos' site and the page with the CM1 arm. He has all sorts of technical stuff explaining how he designs/why and builds the arm. My price quote was about a year ago and the dollar has continued sucking against the Euro so expect his prices to be a bit more.