Suggestions for a holographic preamp?


I'm looking to replacing my Herron Audio tube line stage with something else, not because of a problem with the sound, but for a few other reasons.

I do both digital and analog, and have a Herron Audio tube phono preamp. My power amp is an MSB S-200, which is awesome, and my speakers are Marten Parker Duos, which are wonderful for a deep, holographic soundstage that I like so much.

I listen mostly to rock and reggae, and I'm looking to keep the price under $10K US, and I'm fine with a used one as well.

I get the feeling that I will need a tube preamp to get that holographic sound, but perhaps there are some SS ones that do as good a job?

The fellow I work with at The Music Room suggested a ModWright LS-100 or a used PS Audio BHK preamp; I've researched and they both look like they'd fit the bill, but I'd like to hear your suggestions, too! 

larsman

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At the Monies being asked for the EARS 868 in the Link, this model is more that worthwhile being investigated.

There is not too many that are going to be capable to compete with this Model, if the Synergy is on par with how I know it can produce an End Sound in a System it was demo'd on.

The Class of the MSB S200 needs something quite special as the deliverer of the Signal to be processed.  

Link Attached 

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650228738-ear-yoshino-868-preamp-with-fabulous-phono-stage/

The Spatial Audio Raven is off interest to myself, I would really like to experience it in use, hence, no ears in front of it does not encourage me to strongly suggest it can make a very good impression as has the EAR 868 has in a system belonging to another.

Synergy is what really matters and this is only to be found through trialling different devices in the home system within the dedicated listening space.

Not one recommendation or suggestion of investigation is going to bring the impression Synergy can create for an End Sound produced as a guaranteed outcome.      

A Post follows that was made in 2019.

"  In his Positive Feedback review of the EAR-Yoshino 868L line stage pre, the reviewer made the statement that, though the 868 provides XLR jacks for balanced operation, the pre-amp circuitry itself is single-ended. Designer Tim deParavicini in his manufacturer reply corrected the reviewer, stating that no, the 868 is a true balanced design. It is a commonly-held understanding by audiophiles and semi-pro hi-fi reviewers that a true balanced amp by definition has doubled parts. As atmasphere just said, that is a misconception and misunderstanding of what balanced is. A pre-amp can have single-ended circuits yet be true balanced in operation.

The real concern in any piece of gear is how the balanced inputs/outputs are implemented. In the EAR 868, Paravicini accomplished that goal via transformers. In his Music Reference RM-200, Roger Modjeski does so with a resistor network. Companies with lower standards typically create balanced inputs/outputs with the dreaded opamp, and with the expected sonic compromise. A higher retail price does not necessarily buy one balanced ins and outs NOT created with opamps. If possible, inspect the schematic of any piece of balanced gear you are considering buying, to see how it’s balanced connections are created, and if they conform to AES48. " 

The Following is the Industry Info that can be investigated.

https://www.aes.org/publications/standards/search.cfm?docID=44

When my Phon' was being designed over a period of time there was a few Circuits Produced of which a few were superseded. Even though the updated designs were a betterment ( Personal Preference as a result of listening evaluation). The earlier designs were introduced on occasion to measure where the differences being produced were able to be discerned for the impression of the End Sound being produced.

A Friend after being demo'd my Phon' on a few occasions wanted to have a model in their own system.

When having been demo'd an earlier Prototype, they remained smitten and after having it put into a Casing with a few component exchanges, had bought into the design at very very fair monies. My experiences of this Phon' is enjoyed as much as my own, there is only small differences to the voicing that I can detect in the different system.

There may be a Prototype/ Prototypes that still remains, which can be discussed with Mr Sachs. Such a Model may become after a little attention, a Bespoke Design that will due to Pedigree always be a Saleable Pre Amp, offering much of the attraction of the Amp' offered to the broader community?   

As a side,

A Forum Member PM’d myself about a Supplier of D.U.C.C Cable.

I can’t reply to mails that arrive in my Personal Account and Mails are not shown to me within the forum.

Additionally I can’t send a PM within the forum.

The Link will be a beneficial source of info for the PM Inquirer.

As a Wire Type used as a signal path on a cable, it will be beneficial to the sent signal to augment a Holographic ( me terminology for this effect is ethereal ) perception of an End Sound produced.

http://www.acrolink.jp/english/products/7n_a2070.html

Luxman also uses the same Wire Type and occasionally it is found as a PC 1 Wire directly from Mitsubishi.

The Link is direct from Mitsubishi and shows for Product Code for the Wire Type.

The Product Code could serve as method to finding the wire only from other sources?

https://www.mitsubishi-copper.com/en/products/materials/mof_6n8/

Mitsubishi has in recent months produced a state of the art OFC Copper Wire that is Comparable but surpassing oxygen-free copper C10200, which has the highest electrical conductivity (101%IACS). 

@vthokie83 I have failed to find D. U. C. C as a Wire Only.

I have found a 7N Stress Free Wire but was not convinced it was D. U. C. C.

I also once found a PC Triple C Wire as a Single 0.08mm.

Coil Winding on a MC is typically 0.03mm