Subwoofers.... one 10" or two 8"?


I'm looking to fill out the bottom of my simple 2 channel system  (Musical Fidelity X-Ray CDP through Peachtree Audio Grand Integrated amp to a pair of Mirage OMD-15 full range speakers).  I occasionally will play the TV audio through the system for movies, but not interested in an HT setup. Music is the prime focus. The room is "medium" size.  I know that will not give the deep bass feel of a 12", but the difference should not be too great, and a 12" may be overkill for that room.  I've also considered getting two 8" subs to keep the sound balanced between the left and right channels. I think the  8" may be enough bottom for my room and tastes. I'm on a budget so getting a pair of anything bigger than 8" may not be in the cards.

Any opinions or suggestions as to whether I'd be better off with one 10" or two 8" subs?

















larstusor

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I had two sunfire 8" yrs back with maggies i loved it fast and crisp . I’ve had alot of subs over the yrs from 8"-15 different brands and applications. ( rel velo sunfire svs nova ) Room characteristics play a big role imo . Bass traps and treatment . I still think sunfire makes a great sub for the bks 10-12" about a g or so . 2 good 10" and proper room treatment will be tight and just rip when you want it in a med room .jmo
x2 on the above comments.rels are good subs.Although i am often perplexed why I don't see more people running the better sunfires they a great subs.The 8" sunfire back in the 90s was a beast for its size i had 2 with mg3a and cj it was great (treated room).I have a hsu 12 and it will peel your face off if you want it too.It smokes the velo 15" i have in the ht room ..Again and again i say it invest in treatment it will change the game in your room...gaarrunnttteeeed . lol any good sub will sound way better with treament I personnally have seen it again and again. again my humble opinion..
I have had over the yrs probly 10 different subs . The original 8" sunfires with my mg3a sounded killer .. I had a pair  of the better 10" velos granite looking base with kefs they were imo not as good as the sunfires anong other velos, a single rel few yrs back 12" it was nice i have a hrs 12" sunfire on spikes now it gets boomy if its not placed right . I would like 2 10" in my room but honestly there are many times i dont even use the sub. There are many things at play with a sub regarding placement , straddling corners etc. but i never knew how good the low end sounded until i started working on room acoustics . Regarding small subs and high distortion i can't comment , i only know what sounds good in my setups over the yrs . The only 15" i ever had is the velodyne i have a model i can’t remember at the moment it was around a g retail is in my ht room its huge and rattles the house but tight is it not . 2-8" = 😬 2-10" = 😃 2-12" = is overkill in a small med room . Jmho .. Treat that room with some bass traps of some kind you’ll be surprised.👍😄
larstusor,
 I get it..... my wife married a career musician and motor nut so she gave up in the beginning when it came to the garage, guitars, amps and me stealing the spare room for dedicated audio.( studio is 100yrd from the house lol) In the ht room "family room" i am working on the treatment now it rings bigtime (slap echo) 24'x28'x17' vaulted ceilings. she is down because she can hear the difference .If you can sway her try somebody like gik and just browse thru they can take pics and imprint them on the panels.Who can say no to a family pic? lol. I have and still remain a fan of the better sunfires and honestly i may be in the few but i feel a smaller driver is faster and more accurate.Thats why i dont have big drivers in my spkrs like many . Sometimes if not almost all the time when ya take a crisp tight spkr and put a larger sub with it there is a distinctive separation between them imo .i think when you get that hrs8 you will be shocked it throws like  1.5" ! mess around with it .I know the purist are going to interject but straddle a corner facing out ,a foot or two ,try phase switching,and god forbid lol turn it around about two feet from a corner and face it .try it along the wall close and a cple feet out.these changes will be significant some will be boomy as hell somewhere in there it should just melt away in your system .If your are like "dam theres the low end i'm looking for maybe you can mark it somehow and only place it there when the wife is away and have a serious session.i used to do that in one of my old setup yrs ago. Get another 8' sunfire it will be tight and rip in all but the most demanding situations and there tiny.( wife approved).although for me i would prefer two 10" in the perfect setup .sorry but your setup is limited by different obsticles with all due respect. I am lucky to have a 13'x16'x10' room. the sunfires are easy to sell if you choose a different path ..jmho
good luck
I want to clear up something i said. There are some killer 12" and 15" subs like the jl audios but thats a different topic and way above the money you want to spend ..
respect and good luck


        I have an  Sunfire hsu12 .( az cable rca's from preout) I am pretty impressed with it in general .Althoough i did put 3 . 1.5" audiopoints under it which just made a real deal difference in the overall sound ).I would consider grabbing another, which is somewhat shocking to me with it being a 12"in the grand price range . i have generally preferred a pair of 10".If i had the money i would buy the jl audios probly 10". For yrs we tauted there power in audio apps and boats etc. There new subs are serious but are like 3-5k a pair.The sunfire ,svs rythmic etc would much less.
       Like i said Larstusor hook that 8" up and see what you get then let us know whats happening (easy to resale that sub).
       Also op  has limits on treatment and wife constraints as many do
.      Eric
 Although i do run a big velodyne 15" in my ht room its huge front ported. that hsu has to rattle the walls,my velo is nuts just not a good audio sub imo ..i would go sealed myself
Hey eric 
. Aren't  reflection points playing a big role there also . When i used treatment on the points . The ole mirror reflection spot gik talks about it helped immensely. Op cant run treatment though 
Eric sorry i was speaking in broad terms like mids etc I suggested gik bas traps i use them and with a few other panels an diffusers it changed my game . Gik was just saying in general terms have a freind hold a mirror for you against the reflection wall until you see your speaker and start by treating that area with a panel etc . Obviously not accurate for all app my speakers are 4’ from the side walls corners are trapped . This all becomes meaningless if treatment is not an option
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    Ghosthouse just curious why the svs no gripe or pro for it just curious for your decision over others
If your crafty applying veneer is simple really buy a sheet table saw router and glue .. All those seem like strong reason . I hsve s sunfire hsu 12 sealed and small i am gonna geab another used at some point gloss blk .. They are a little more like 750-1000 each .. Congrats . I know everyone has there opinions but i spiked mine starsound audiopoints 3 made a huge difference..