rauliruegas,
" Pleaso do it you a favor and stay away of REL that it’s not a true sealed subwoofer but with a passive radiator that almost function as a ported one." REL No. 31 and 32s are true sealed subwoofers.
Subwoofers - Final Thoughts with Martin Logan ESL 13A
I’ve narrowed this down to 3 choices (I think) and was looking to see if anyone has had some experience with pairing these subs with ML ESLs? I can’t try and return because they are mostly secondhand purchases, so hoping to get it right the first time!
Force Cancelling subs have been highly recommended, so:
KEF KC92 (or KF92 older model) 2, 3 or possible 4 of these:
https://assets.kef.com/product-support/kc92-subwoofer/KC92_info_sheet_EN_V4_20240124.pdf
Martin Logan BalancedForced 210 - Maybe the best as they match up nicely, but I could probably only do one of these as they are HUGE. I have only one spot I could put one as far as the manual's recommendation goes. Martin Logan says these will cover 3000 sq. ft. My room is only 500 sq. ft. Two maybe overkill, but some say, "2 subs or no subs" Maybe I could put another addition on the house :-(
https://www.martinlogan.com/en/product/balancedforce-210 - click on Specs/Lit
Lastly, The Swarm Subwoofer System - not sure how well this would work with my ESLs.
https://www.audiokinesis.com/the-swarm-subwoofer-system-1.html
Any advice would greatly be appreciated (as usual).
Thanks, and all the best of the season to you all!
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navyachts, "@ricred1 sorry, I missed the point, are you in agreement with @rauliruegas ?" I submit audio is personal and there are no absolutes. I personally don't like REL subwoofers that use a "passive radiator", because my listening room is upstairs and I could hear the radiator. My point was REL does have "true" sealed subwoofers(No.31 and 32). In my system, I prefer sealed REL subwoofers and I use dual REL No. 32 subwoofers. In my room/system, it isn't just about bass, but how adding the No. 32s have improved everything across the audio spectrum and the soundstage. I prefer the 32s to every previously owned subwoofer...dual JL Audio F110, dual JL Audio F112 v2, HSU, Martin Logan Depth i, and SVS 16 Ultras. I prefer my system with subwoofers, some don't. |
It's what I prefer, but it certainly doesn't mean they're for everyone. In my opinion it has nothing to do with price, but what I value. Everything impacts a system and in my particular case, purchasing REL No. 32 subwoofers and a Antipodes Oladra music server has been two of the best decisions I've made for my system. I submit SVS and RELs impact systems differently.
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rauliruegas,"Dear @ricred1 : In this link and in any REL information you can’t find out which is the 31/32 THD that is essentially a meaning of the true quality subwoofer performance levels. If you have information about then please share with us:" Sorry and I don't want to be rude, but I simply own REL subwoofers. I don't work for them, I'm not a REL fanboy(I don't like their subs with a passive radiator), and I don't get into measurements. In my system/room, I prefer the NO. 32s because adding them has improved everything across the audio spectrum. The 32s disappear and you can't tell they are on, until you turn them off. I'm not telling anyone to buy them or saying they are the best for everyone. |
m-db,My subwoofers were set-up by my dealer using REW, listening, and the No. 32 parametric equalizer. They are on the outside of my speakers. "you are the only staunch sub user I can recall who prefers a -6dB sub-bass speaker to the -3dB subwoofers you’ve owned." Subwoofers aren't just about bass and that's why I prefer the No. 32s. It’s what I prefer based on actually owning several subwoofers. As I always say, no absolutes in audio, only preferences. I don’t understand why people care what people spend their money on. It’s simple, if you don’t like REL subwoofers, don’t purchase them. |
rauliruegas.You are correct, Velodyne are the best subwoofers! |