Subwoofer


A couple of days ago I was talking to a dealer and he said that all speakers benefit from adding a subwoofer. What's are your thoughts? 
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Bo1972 has resurfaced! YAY! However, he continues to be utterly wrong when claiming "slow" response is something that has anything to do with cone material, or actually exists in reality as he describes it (bass frequencies are a specific animal in any acoustic space and catch phrases like "slow" are somewhat useless), and clearly has a very limited understanding of how any of this works…A statement like "Even with a 4000 watt amp, a paper driver is still slow in response. Doesn’t make sense. " is likely true in his brain as he lacks the sophistication to make sense of this while burdened with preconceived notions based on his alleged "proof." Note that he’s stated that he uses subs crossed over at around 150hz which is well into low midrange territory, and anybody who tests the efficacy of that setup would notice it sounds like crap without copious amounts of some sort of (otherwise unnecessary) EQ. Bo has shown he knows very little about actual music (I think he heard a live concert somewhere once), promotes an imagined pseudo expertise with long winded proclamations based on nonsense, and his re-emergence gives me something to happily rail at…welcome back Bo.
Bo1972's assumption that audiogon posters somehow miss the boat on great sounding audio due to lacking his 6 years of sales experience, combined with his inability to respond to posts from far more sophisticated audiophiles (many exhibiting near zen-like patience with his drivel, unlike myself) pretty much says it all. Bo…your posts continue to make you seem utterly clueless…Bo…really…you may need professional help…I might know a therapist in the Netherlands I can recommend…Bo...
With the exception of Bo, pretty much nobody would use subs into the low mids as it isn't necessary and is simply not going to sound right. If you have very bass shy monitors you might put the subs up to 80hz or something but beyond that it gets weird (try it). Boo uses digital EQ to get whatever results his golden ears require so I imagine that's a key element of his take on what sounds right. Another note on driver "speed"…clearly, doped paper cones can be extremely light and sound amazing (new Wilsons anybody?) and the utter lack of understanding how drivers work is a hallmark of Bo's imaginary world.
The low frequency capability (listed as -3db) of most main speakers is generally where not much bass is going on and that's fine…thinking my Silverline Preludes with 3.75" (larger than the 3.5" listed, but still) woofers get any real bass at the 35hz point or whatever they claim is easily tested with a low frequency test tone…yeah…there is some sound at that frequency but really you have to get to the 50hz and above point to see where they start to lose bass output. This is fine with me though as they sound amazing, especially with the RELs I use with 'em…musical subs are exactly that and I put mine at around that 50hz point so they blend perfectly in my listening room at from normal to loud levels.