Subwoofer


A couple of days ago I was talking to a dealer and he said that all speakers benefit from adding a subwoofer. What's are your thoughts? 
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What stringreen says is true for most speakers, none more so than planars. When you add a pair of subs to Magneplanar/Eminent Technology or ESLs, you remove the very low frequencies from the panels, decreasing their displacement and the resulting distortion (planars are very inefficient movers of air), resulting in better upper bass and lower-mids on up into the midrange itself. You also remove the low-frequencies in the signal going to the speaker's amp, decreasing IT'S distortion, and leaving more available power for the mids and highs.

With the quality of musical subs available these days (Rythmik, GR Research---their OB/Dipole especially!, SVS, Funk, Seaton, REL, JL Audio, Vandersteen) there is no reason not to.

To add to Duke’s very informed post above, Danny Richie’s GR Research OB subs are the "fastest" I’ve ever heard. Danny chose paper as the cone material for the drivers he designed for his subs for a few reasons: He finds paper to provide greater resolution than aluminum at small signal levels, the result of paper’s lower mass and energy storage in comparison to aluminum; he finds paper to provide more natural timbre than aluminum; and paper-coned woofers can be used to a higher x/o frequency, his OB sub being usable up to 300Hz. Danny offers the same woofer with an aluminum cone (marketed through Rythmik Audio), but recommends the paper version for highest sound quality.

The "fast" characteristic of a sub is not, as Duke just said, the result of it starting quickly (bass frequencies are relatively slow), but rather of it stopping quickly (the OB sub has been described as "stopping on a dime"). That results in the sub not filling in the spaces between musical material with noise, from both the cone itself as well as the sub cabinet---self-induced resonance. The OB nature of the sub also lessens the room’s ability to add it’s own noise---the "boom" subs are notorious for creating. An OB sub doesn’t "load" the room the way sealed and ported subs do, exciting fewer room modes.

Danny was already offering OB subs when he learned of fellow-Texas resident Brian Ding of Rythmik, who had developed and patented a new servo-feedback woofer design. Danny proposed they work together at designing a woofer optimized for Open Baffle use and employing Brian’s servo-feedback circuitry. The resulting sub is very special---the world’s only Open Baffle-Dipole/Servo-Feedback sub! Brian himself offers an extensive line of aluminum-coned Servo-Feedback subs through Rythmik Audio, in 8", dual 8", 12", dual 12", 15", dual 15", and soon-to-be-available 18", some of them in sealed models only, some in ported only, and some in both. Very "fast" sounding subs is what Rythmik Audio is known for (Sterling Sound in NYC, famous for their superior-sounding mastering, has six of the sealed 15" in their monitor systems), and GR Research has a few DIY sub models (sealed in addition to the afore-mentioned OB), as well as loudspeakers. There is no longer any reason or need to settle for "slow", bloated, boomy subs!

There are many subs with 15" drivers, all sounding a little different from each other. Which gives "a more natural sound"? The one you own, of course ;-) ! The 12" and 15" Rythmik subs, both with aluminum coned woofers, sound exactly the same---not just very similar, but identical. The 15" just producers more output, due to it's larger cone area, longer cone travel, stronger motor, higher-watt amplifier, and larger sealed enclosure. But the sound characteristic? Indistinguishable from the 12". Rythmik designer/owner Brian Ding says so, as do Rythmik owners having both 12" and 15" models. But hey, feel free to "believe" whatever you want.
Particularly if the soundstage is a large reverberant church/cathedral or concert hall, RW. The ability to play really low makes possible reproducing the huge sound (long wavelengths and very low frequency reflections between walls, floor, and ceiling) heard in such enclosed spaces. And having two subs is important in being able to do that, as some of that very low frequency information contains out-of-phase (left minus right and visa versa) elements, which are cancelled when the left and right channels are summed to mono.
Regarding cone material.....Rythmik’s Brian Ding recommends AGAINST crossing-over his aluminum coned subs at higher than 80Hz (the built-in Rythmik x/o affords as high a frequency as 120Hz, but that’s for the paper-coned sub), going with the paper-coned F12G if needing to do so. The reason for that is the aluminum cones have a lower resonant frequency (the aluminum cone itself, not the sub’s rf) than do the paper---that rf being too close to 80Hz for comfort. He recommends aluminum for higher-SPL applications, as it is stiffer than paper, displaying less cone break-up (non-pistonic behavior) at high excursion.