Subs?


Looking at adding a sub or subs to my system.  My room is a dedicated room, 13’x25’.  My speakers are B&W 804/D3.  Levinson amp and McIntosh preamp.  Looking JL Audio.  My question, is a bigger sub better - 13” over a 12”? Is a bigger sub better than 2 x10” subs?  Thx

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1st you have to decide your on your priorities… Do you want Music Bass or Movie Bass ??? The Experience is totally different with each… So what is your main listening going to be ?

 

I went from (1) SVS Front Firing 12”er to (2) REL 8” Down Firing T-5X’s. The SVS was ok for movies but for music it just didn’t cut it. Was it only because I had one ? I couldn’t tell ya but the 2 RELS are much more musical and dialed in so easily. I found being they had smaller drivers the response was much faster and worked better in my smaller room of 12’ x 12’. Being a smaller driver they have a lot less air to move. I have them dialed in at 45.25hz and volume level as one noted before at “ A Whisper” and couldn’t be happier. No Localization !!!! The secret to a sub’s successful integration into your set up is to not know you’ve got subs, but would seriously miss them if they weren’t there. Wanna drive yourself nuts? .. Nothing worse than hearing bass coming from a specific location in your listening room and having multiple subs certainly balances things more evenly.

 

Being my PreAmp has HT Bypass I do have the RELs attached to my DENON 3700 AVR as well through the AVR’s LFE output to the REL’s “SEPARATE” LFE input.

 

NOTE: REL’s allow you to have High QUALITY inputs from BOTH

(1) directly from your Audio System’s Amps through the speaker outs sharing the output feed that goes to you speakers and

(2) also has SEPERATE LFE inputs for an LFE signal from an AVR with the ability to Automatically switch incoming signals according to the input signal being feed to it.

 

The bass response for movies is great but music is my key objective and I couldn’t be happier than I am with the (2) RELs

Had two JL audio Fathom V2 subs that cost me $10,000 USD. I did not heed advice on here to avoid at all costs. One was broken on arrival and the other sounded terrible despite professional integration with REW, miniDSP etc. Martin Logan’s at 1/3 the price have been flawless. Like others said, friends don’t let friends buy JL. 

Deep Subject...Well I started with two SVS SB10's for higher end tube amp stereo listening.....And as with anyone into music playback one day after owning your equipment you want to hear more detail from it.....But cost and your room space play another big part on what you can afford and room acoustic of course in end of what best sound you can achieve with your equipment..Moving all speakers few degrees or location of Subwoofer,, It does not stop..But after 5 years with SB10's and smaller tube amp I decided to go bigger tube amp and Sub to SVS SB16 and talking to SVS was going to go with smaller subs vs one big SB16..But my living room was tough placing two subs and wiring them .. Do two subs sound better yes they do ..If you have the room and placement for them  only.. I went with one SB16 and 95% I am happy with it..It sound more natural with my listening then dual SB 10's I had..And I guess no matter what you have or listen to you always in your mind think it could sound better ...I think some days mood plays a big part of what you hear than other days...And way songs are recorded plays big part of how song sounds .. And with tube amp I do not have adjustment to change bass or tremble with knob so some songs I need to roll tubes with some songs ..But what I hear from my single SB16 makes me happy over my Dual SB10's..Only your ears can tell you what you need to make you happy..If you have the room and money buy duals if not buy largest Sub and be content...You do learn to listen to what you have and hopefully you chose the right Amp,Speakers,DAC,&Sub..I found speaker stands changed my sound the most out of everything I have done..

I have 2 set of JLAudio E110, and 1 set of JLAudio E112 in three systems, the build quality and sound is excellent.  My fourth system I has a set of HSU ULS-15 MK2 and they are excellent.