Sub Sonics and woofer pumping


I have a VPI prime on bear claws sitting on a maple base. Floor is concrete. I use a Nagaoka MP500 cart with going to an ARC PH3se phono pre, then to a Herron 1A preamp. Amp is an ARC Classic 60. Speakers are Thiel CS 2.4’s. 
I get pretty aggressive woofer pumping with vinyl. 
I’ve lubed my bearings on the table.

my alignment is spot on. 
Tracking force at the upper limits of cart. 
I’ve added the 2nd pivot point to the 3D arm. 
I’ve even switched out the counter wt to a much heavier unit and added a comparable head shell weight to change the total mass of arm. To no avail. 
None of these things have had any effect in reducing the pumping. 
I REALLY don’t want to use a rumble filter. 
I’m left with the conclusion that the cart may not be a match for the arm, even after adding all the extra mass. 

Any thoughts or solutions. 
last_lemming

Showing 2 responses by big_greg

You have two systems.  Have you tried the turntable in the other system?  Same issue there?  If not, I think @slaw may have pointed out what the issue is - placement.
I recently added the 2nd pivot point to my VPI Classic 2 and it didn't create rumble, nor have I read of any reports of that in the extensive research I did before adding it.  How hard would it be to take the turntable into the other room and see if it has the same issue or not?