Streamer/server newbie


Hello everyone, I never felt I would consider purchasing a streamer/server yet here I am and I blame talking to another audiophile after he asked ‘what’s new with your stereo’ and told me about his recent streamer purchase. From peeking at these units I’m interested in the Aurender’s, Lumin’s and maybe Naim.  I do not want an integrated DAC. My system; PBN mono amps, PBN preamp, PBN M2!5 speakers and a Bel Canto DAC 3.7 with Reference upgrade and most likely in near future upgrade to a Lampizator DAC. Budget to match the system so $5k more or less. I do not foresee me abandoning CD’s for an all digital download library however I’d like to be able to have the ability to download  music. Thanks for any and all suggestions.

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Intel NUC Roon Server is around $600.

A Raspberry Pi 4 with Ropiee is about $250 + linear power supply $90.

Roon lifetime subscription $830.

Spend the rest on a good DAC, amp, speakers, headphones if any of those items you already have are something you might consider upgrading.

I have the above setup in one system and I also have a Lumin U1 streamer in my main system. The upgrades to DAC amp and speakers are so much more bang for the buck then the small improvement in sound by spending $5k more on U1 streamer...don’t get me wrong it is a great streamer but it was the last component I upgraded. I was shocked and surprised at how good the Raspberry Pi sounds into a good DAC (USB connection - no hat). Everything I read and see online says buy a streamer costing thousands.

 

 

@mahler123 Not to disagree too much with what you said but the lower cost streamers are not that good. The Bluesound Node (I have N130) is not bad for the cost but the USB audio out is poor and not compatible with all devices. ifi Zen Stream buggy software and wifi drop outs. Similar issues with Musical Fidelity MX Stream and Roon compatibility.

A Raspberry PI in its most basic form - just the motherboard in a fanless heatsink case with a linear power supply running Ropiee outputing USB audio will rival streamers costing thousands. Keep it simple for best results. It is only a network bridge to pass digital data. A good DAC will take that data and buffer it and use its own internal timing to deal with errors and jitter in the data.

If setting up Ropiee on a Pi is not appealing then the lowest tier streamer I would recommend is a Lumin U1 Mini / U2 Mini (and add the LHY liner power supply kit). Lumin has stable software and good hardware.

 

 

 

I came across this pro Raspberry Pi setup that looked interesting the other day. I saw Alvin at Vineshine Audio reviewing it and he is selling in Asia.

https://www.pi2design.com/mercury-streamer-v2.html

The builder is based in USA so I ordered one from him this morning as I am still short one streamer for a headphone tube amp I just bought.

Will report back once I get it. Not sure it will sound any different than the one I built but like I said it is a more pro build which will look nicer in my table top system so worth the extra bucks to me. Will install Ropiee as I only stream with Roon. It also easily takes a generic 12V LPS with no mods in place of the external switching power supply included.

BTW here is how small the PI 4 is in a fanless case without hat. You can hide it behind your equipment in a stereo rack. Has built in wifi that seems to work fine. Or you can use the lan ethernet connection.

The LPS is a $89 unit from Amazon. Also works great.