Streamer Selection - Thoughts Requested Please!


I have been talking way to much to myself on my next purchase - a streamer, no DAC. I have reached the point of going round and round with the same three streamers - Innuos Pulse, Auralic G1.1 and Aurender N150.  Mid $3K price range max.  The Auralic G1.1 list just dropping by $1K to $2,249.  The Innuos Pulse list is $3,250 and the Aurender N150 is at $3,500. Would be open to lightly used to upgrade my choices but the upgraded next step in each product line is a significant jump.  

I began streaming with a Blusound Node 2021 Gen 3 which I converted last year with the PD Creative board LPSU and added an SBooster P&P Eco power supply.  This was an improvement in my digital listening using the BS node for the DAC and streaming mainly TIDAL. Six months ago I added a Schitt Yggydrasil LIM (Less is More)  and oh my goodness what a difference overall.  I have the BS Node connected by an ethernet cable to my router.  Use an iPad to run BlueOS and the Tidal app.  The BS node is connected via USB to the Schitt Yggy.  

I don't have a need for storage or playing CD's.  Reading a few threads here have convinced me that a streamer upgrade with my system will provide better sound overall.  How much is certainly an open question but I am willing to go forward.  The rest of my system is a First Watt F8 amp, Modwright LS100 and Modwright 9.0 along with a Clearaudio Concept table and Zu Dirty Weekend Supremes.  

Whats important to me would be the sound quality, an app with solid integration with Apple and TIDAL.  I am leaning to Aurender as their players/transports are "streamers" / no DAC, they seem to integrate well with Apple and the Conductor app gets mixed reviews but mostly is well liked.  I am just not sure if with my present system it makes sense to be over $3K for a streamer, although if down the line I move on from the Yggy, I wouldn't want to then add a new streamer.  

Please jump in with thoughts, suggestions and let me know if I have missed any important criteria or other approaches/audio streamers.  Thanks in advance.....

norust

I have an Innuos Zen Mk3, a Lumin U2 Mini and a Bluesound node and if I had to choose one it would be the Lumin. They all have their pluses. The Lumins SQ is very much to my liking leaning away from analytical toward warm. The Lumin app is fine but I’ve gone down the Roon road and just love the exposure to new music. The Innuous is great as it does two things I never thought I needed but like having. First I can rip a cd and the cs shows up in my Roon library. Don’t have many cds but when something is only available on cd it’s perfect for me. It also hosts my Roon core. 
The node is a great bang for the buck but if you want a little more

emphasis on musicality and sound quality the Lumin in my home wins. 

I am really surprised by the complete lack of mention (up til now) of the Moon Simaudio MiND 2. It is a brilliant streamer with great sound quality and it is right in your budget at US$2,400.

The Moon app is more than acceptable and integrates nicely with Qobuz (I have not tried it with Tidal).

My experience with streamers, all with Yggdrasil LIM

phone/ipad:   sounded ok at the time but in fact very harsh and noisy commpared to dedicated streamer

Raspberry pi with digione signature hat and Shanti:  huge improvement but still harsh  especially with like say violins, and doesn't handle complex music that well.  That being said, I was pretty happy with it for a while especially for the price.

Lumin U2 mini:  A very good streamer, better at streaming than the Aurender N100h but the Aurender N100h sounds much better than the Lumin  if it is using local files.  Not a fan of the app.  No local storage which to my ears so far sounds better than streaming.  You have to use minimserver which is a pain.  dont know if NAS might be better.  It does do ROON which is nice but the sound quality is better with the Lumin app.  I have a hard time finding my local files with roon, and they don't really sound any better than streaming, which is perhaps no surprise as they are still coming in over your local network.  I am finding roon also a pain, and can find new music etc. other ways including just using the qobuz app to explore things.

 

Aurender N100H:   sounds amazingly good with local files.  But streaming is only OK.

N150:   Local file playing a bit better than N100H.  Streaming is much improved over the 100H,  but local files are still I think significantly better, more density. The app is pretty good, could be better especially its integration with Qobuz.  It is annoying not to be able to search Qobuz favorites, but you can add favorites to the Aurender local library, but still not so easy to fiind sometimes.

 

I am now wondering if the N200 or N10 might be better especially at streaming, or if the rest of my system is not good enough for it to make a difference.  Yggy LIM and Raven Blackhawk with no really expensive interconnects.

Oops, forgot one.  I had the Innuos Zen MK3 for a while, nice app and also a roon endpoint, but I found it harsh compared to the Aurender.

 

One other point,  I have a bit of hearing sensitivity, and started using Roon just for the DSP.  With the Aurender, I don't need any dsp.  U2 mini streaming also don't need dsp so much.