Stillpoints Ultra6 reference vibration controlers?


Category: Amplifiers

I started to work in audio in july 1998. I remember that the first day I started I had a blocknote with me. I started in room 1 of the loudspeakers. Here it all started to write down properties of each individual tool. For a long time I was addicted to audio. I was busy with audio for 80 hours a week. It was never enough for me.

Almost 17 years later I have done thousands of tests in audio. From the mid level till highend. I became aware that I could judge and understand audio a lot more easy than all my collegues. But I never understood why. Untill in 2012 I became aware that I have a photographic memory in sound. I trained this part of my brain for a long time. Every single audition I can recall. So a second audition I see in front of me and the first one is on the left side. Within a few tenths of a second I know already the difference between them.

When you are aware of all the properties of each individual 'tool' you will see and understand the patterns between them. And you will understand the connections between them. This means you understand how the stage and overall sound has been created. I can see 3-4 steps further than other people in audio can.

I judge every single tool on what I call Total Sound. Total Sound is like a blue print of the original sound. When I audition sets from 'new' clients, at shows or at another audio shop in almost all situations it is what I call 'incomplete'.
In most 'new' sets I need to bring in parts of Total Sound to make it complete. At the end it is so much more addictive to listen to any set I 'repaired'.

Parts of Total Sound:

- Soundrealism: you want and need an instrument to sound like
in real. I use Pass labs amps to the max for this. It is the
focus on sound of each different instrument and voice. For
example: you want to hear the difference between 2 acoustic
guitars of a recording. I always want to hear the full
pallet in the mid freq. The timbre is an essential part
of listening to music

- 3 dimensional soundstage: this is the most exiting part of
audio in general. This sets your beloved music in full 3D
in front of you. During listening you can focus on each
individual part of a recording.

- Intimate sound: instruments and voices are very small in
dimension and very direct in sound. You want a realistic
proportion of instruments and voices. Intimate sound has
a very big influence on our emotion.

- Blacks: The space between the instruments and voices with
their acoustic information during the recording. This is
level of physical appearance. You want to touch every single
instrument and voice of the recording. Germans use the word
'darstellung'.

- timing and speed: it is a very important part for authority
and control of the overall sound. Better timing will give
you less acoustic limitaions. But also a more natural sound.
Biside this you also can reveal more layers of the low freq.

- Resolution: you want to hear all details of the recording.
And it needs to be physical apparent.

- Air: This part gives the instruments and voices the freedom
during listening. Separation makes your music so much more
appealing.

- A big freq. response: When your system goes deeper in freq.
response you will hear more information of a recoding. This
also has a big influence on our emotion. People can hear
till maximum 20 khz. But...the freq. response above it
influences our brains.

- articulation of voices: how clear you can hear word
endings, breathing of singers and moving lips.

- heights: When I received 2 sets of the Audioquest Wel
Signature xlr's it became more clear than ever. It makes
listening to music different and even more appealing.

I wanted to tell this information first before I start with the review of the Ultra 6. Because it makes it much more easy to understand how I work. By using tools for their properties you always will reach a superior endresult in sound. For a perfectionist like me you always go to the max. There is no room for error.

When you have done thousands of tests like me, you are aware of how important and unique the working of Stillpoints are in your set. I am a stillpoint dealer and use many of them in my set. They are an 'essential' part for the absolute sound. Why? Because they can add 'new' qualities I could not create with other tools.

At this moment we speak I do a lot of research with new tools and systems. I call it creating a new 'statement' in sound. Because I want to reach a higher endresult than ever before regardless price in audio. It is a higher level of accuracy and realism than before.

Without Stillpoints I would not be there were I am at this moment. When you compare the Ultra 6 against the other Stillpoints you know how much better they are.

I put them under my Pass labs X350.5. They operate in a different league. They even bring your set into a new zone. Like it puts your set into pause and it sets your music free. Your stage becomes wider and deeper and you get more air around all instruments and voices.

The mid freq. becomes more involving than before. Also the authority and control of the mid freq. is more precise.

When you compare amps or sources which have a huge difference in price ( 2000 dollar against 10.000 dollar+) you will never have this difference in timing the Ultra 6 gives to you. It is mindblowing in what it does with the speed and timing. It becomes so much more accurate and refined.

I noticed that the sound of a piano and cello becomes so much more natural sounding.

In the high freq. you will reveal more details. And again the control and authority in the high freq. gets to a much higher level.

The low freq. go deeper than before with a much higher level of authority again. You hear more layers but beside this the natural sound of a bass drum has never sounded this 'real'.

I am the first person who bought then in the Netherlands. And I am thrilled to own them. They are a crucial part of my set. They will have an important part for me to be able to create a new 'statement'in sound.

When you ask me the question; are they expensive? You know they are even rather cheap for the quality and level they bring. I'll love them till death!

Sound&Vision Consulting 16-2-2015
bo1972

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bo1972,
     Just stumbled on the 3D vs 2D concept. I've always wondered what was wrong with my hearing because I could never "hear" much depth in sound stage over maybe 4 feet behind my speakers. I have Monitor Audio RX-6. You say Onkyo is a good brand with my speakers. I've always heard a dedicated stereo amp is better than an AVR for music. You've recommended the TX-NR929 and TX-NR3010 which are AVR's.  Does Onkyo have stereo amps (integrated) that meet your 3D approval? Would a vintage Onkyo (5 - 10 years old) be worth buying?
I understand you've worked years to achieve your ways of measurement for stunning sound.  How do your customers benefit?  I'm thinking about replacing my Harmon Kardon AVR (2005 model) Would an Onkyo TX-NR 818 (2012 model) be able to produce Tru-Fi with your measurements or is it too old school?  .
Took a look at your facebook pics. You're right, there's no way anyone will ever be able to do set ups like yours. I've never seen anything like it before.  Your customers are quite a fortunate group of folk.
When will you be marketing your sound? Any idea on how much your sound will cost?
Besides Pass Labs, Onkyo and Monitor Audio, which other brands of amps and speakers do you find have the ability to meet your high expectations in music reproduction?  Which would you recommend to someone "shopping" for new components or just starting out and who is limited to a mid-fi budget?
Bo1972
"I met a person who is a marketing specialist, he will sell my knowledge. This way I can give many people in the world a much higher level of sound.

I can educate people so it will be available for more people. This is still one of my goals.But I will not give it away for free."

I am not attempting to copy your methods. I understand you being guarded in sharing the information it's taken you a long time and lots of hard work to discover. I'm only asking which brands you've found capable of producing the 3D sound? You say most components have 2D in their DNA and can't produce 3D sound. So could you share which ones ARE worth buying? Do you sell these products over the internet?

Bo1972
"We also do a lot of modifications to amps and sources and again the improvements are huge for reasonable prices. You are not able to create a higher level by spending the same amounts on new speakers, amps, sources or cables."

Do you have a business (brick and mortar) building where you do these modifications? What do you charge? Can a person send their source to you for these modifications?

Bo1972
"We are now discussing how we will sell it. In about 2 months our website will be ready. This will be a totally different approach in sound&vision.

I can promise you that it is a new an higher level what is available at this moment. We also will start making a videoblog about sound&vision."

Looking forward to it!



 



I guess I’ll have to wait until you go live with your marketed knowledge before I replace my amp. From what I’ve read, your knowledge will be well worth it. I sure don't want to waste money on an amp with 2D genetics.
I don't listen to much networked music but I have bought several high resolution CD's from HDtracks. I have about 60 vinyl LP's. Some I've bought as CD's over the years, the rest have been converted to FLAC files on my computer using Audacity. I also own a ton of CD's. Do you recommend or sell any integrated amps that meet your standards for producing 3D sound?
I'm trying to upgrade to a pair of the original Monitor Audio PL200's. Is that a step in the right direction?
Can't afford the PL500's, but just made a great deal for a pair of PL300's brand new in unopened box.  The reason why I bought without hearing is because I have a pair of Monitor Audio RX-6's and they're great speakers for their price. Just felt a need to upgrade. Can't wait to run them in and start enjoying. 
Deal for the PL 300’s fell through (beaten by a higher bidder). I’ll be receiving a new pair of MA Gold 300’s (2015 edition) instead. They’ll be paired with a Marantz 11S3 integrated which I bought last year. b01972, I believe you said Marantz’s are 2D. Are you 100% sure? If so, what would you recommend as a replacement in it’s price range?
As I said earlier, I'll be receiving the MA Gold 300's. The Primare A32 and Pre30 have excellent reviews. Will these 3 together give me a 3D soundstage?
I've been looking at the back connections of both the Primare Pre30 and A32. How would you connect a subwoofer?
bo1972, are there any Primare or Pass Lab integrated amps that would
produce a 3D soundstage with the Monitor Audio Gold 300's?
Music without a subwoofer doesn't sound realistic to me. Even though the MA Gold 300's can play 30Hz the dB level is too soft. Rec out is not an option because the subwoofer doesn't tie in with the other speakers. So can you recommend a 3-D amp with a pre-out or subwoofer-out connection on the back panel?  
I am not a tube fan (too great a potential for sound variation) and I am a subwoofer fan. So here's a simple question: the Primare I32 integrated amp has pre out. Has anyone found the I32 to be a good match with the MA Gold 300's?
Okay, bo1972, it seems no power amp + pre amp combo you've mentioned has a pre out or subwoofer out (something that is a "must have" for me). Onkyo does but you say it's no good without your S.A.P. measurements. Each time I listen to the Marantz I realize just how warm it sounds." Guess I chose to ignore all the reviews that described it as "warm." I sold a pair of Audeze LCD-X's because they sounded to me like the music was being played under a blanket.  I don't like warm. I realize that now. And yes, I still want a 3-D sound stage. So I guess I'll be doing a lot of headphone listening for the next few months until your marketing specialist markets your knowledge.
Received the MA Gold 300's today and they are burning in. Won't do any critical listening until they've run 100 hours. Out of the box the bass is impressive (who needs a subwoofer when you can hear and feel this)? The mid range and highs definitely will need time to develop. Expecting the Primare A32 Thursday & Pre32 within the next 2 weeks. 
My MA 300's are now connected to the Primare A32 (no subwoofer). The MA's have almost 20 hours burn-in and sound so good already I can barely imagine the upper and mid level getting much better. But I definitely hear where the bass could improve. I'm waiting for the Pre32 to be delivered then I'll connect the sub through the pre-out. Presently using the DAC as a temporary preamp. It's going to be a LONG time before I get 400 hours of listening on the MA's, but I know I'm going to love every second of it.

bo1972, you were also right, there's no more warm, veiled sound and I'm loving the clarity and realistic timbre of the speakers and power amp combination.
All of my music is saved on my computer. Most files are FLAC, 4 albums are high resolution FLAC files, some are mp3’s and a few are WAV. I use JRiver Media Center 22.
Spend? None. Try to convince me that a network player is better than a $7000 standalone DAC.
bo1972, you would never have seen anyone at a show carrying my DAC around because it weighs a few ounces less than 45 pounds (20 kg). Like I said earlier, I don't stream music. I've either replaced my vinyl albums with their CD counterpart or ripped my vinyl to my computer as FLAC files with "Audacity." As I mentioned above, all of my music is stored on my computer and JRiver Media Center makes it very easy to listen to what I want, when I want, how I want. I was a teenager in the 70's when vinyl was king but I don't miss the crackles and pops. And I was floored when you said you spend 200 euro's ($223 US dollars) every month on music. That is not an option for me. With my computer I can listen to the music I choose to hear, not what some server thinks I might want to hear. I'm very happy with my DAC and I don't see myself replacing it unless it stops working. Contentment. That's where I am right now and with burn-in it's only going to get better.
Yes, I saw Lumin products on your facebook page. I’m confused. What’s the difference between the media library, a universal network player, a universal audiophile network player, a universal network renderer/streamer, and a universal network player system? And since you don’t connect these streamers by USB, how are they connected in your system? Maybe that’s why I had little interest because they seem so much more complicated. Are all the Lumin products good products. I see their prices span from $1200 - $12,500. What makes one better than the others? Does each model come with a Lumin power supply or do you have to pay extra for that?
I read your message, did a little research, then came back and the response was gone. Sad situation.
From what I read Lumin needs a wired ethernet connection and an iPad. I personally don't like anything made by "Apple."  Have they worked out the app for an Android yet? My direct ethernet connection is in a room more than 50 yards (46 meters) from my stereo. I can't move it because the needs of the home office are more important and I won't run a 50 yard ethernet cable through my house.
The Pre32 came yesterday. Today I got it connected between the DAC and A32 and finally understand the word "layering." I was missing a LOT. I never knew a preamp could make such a difference. While waiting for the Pre32 to arrive I'd connected the DAC directly to the A32. The sound improved but there still wasn’t much increase in depth. But now there’s an increase in instrument separation & micro-details. Instrument and voice timbre is realistic with greatly improved attack and decay of acoustic instruments. The sub-woofer makes music sound more full bodied and the bass is so precise and visceral. The sound-stage is wider & deeper. Listening to choirs and orchestras is breathtaking. Ambience is revealing. Lovin’ it!!! Sure burn-in will just make it sweeter.