Tom please explain why the volume is actually up with your stand under my speaker. No doubt about it! Very interesting. |
My kids are out also Charles... I knocked it over by brushing into the speaker and not that hard really. My fault! I am the problem it seems.... |
I have Coincident TV III's |
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Yes, 1.5 inch Audio Points are used. |
I found the Apprentice and Sistrum stands have the biggest impact on speakers although they greatly benefit everything I have had them under.
But with my speakers...oh my!
I have my new speakers today with the Stillpoints and will compare to the Apprentice stands due in on Thursday. |
Charles, how secure are your speakers on the new Sistrum stands? I assume not as stable as the old footers? Thinking about them for my speakers, but the current footers are very stable as my speakers weight darn close to 200 lbs each! |
I had the 101's under a previous speaker with great results in sound. Unfortunately one speaker was damaged due to the less than ideal support. Ya, it tipped over!
I won't take that chance again. To bad.
Perhaps holes can be drilled so I can bolt the stand to the holes in the speaker's bottom. This may change the sound and effectiveness however... |
Tbg
I just purchased some new Lahave speakers that come with 8 Ultra SS Stillpoints. The speaker is "voiced" with these footers it seems. Anyway, I will compare the stock Stillpoint footers to the Star Sound Apprentice 103 platforms I have.
I use the Apprentice under my Romulus cd/dac and just love it. It does amazing things to my music.
I will report back on my findings. |
Ok here are my initial impressions of the Stillpoints Ultra SS footers vs. the Star Sound Apprentice stand with 4 sets of 1.5 inch Audio Points. My new speaker is the Lahave Khara. These speakers came with Stillpoints as Stillpoints uses Lahave as their reference speaker.
First and most obvious thing I noticed took me completely by surprise. The volume increased without me touching the volume knob setting. What? I said out loud. How can this be? No doubt about it however. The music has more energy, improved dynamic contrasts, and sharper leading edges.
The Stillpoints have a softer, rounder sound. I don't want to say more just yet, as I sear the sound is settling in as the Apprentice spends more time under the speaker. Things were a little too high energy at first, but after just two hours the sound is relaxing if you will.
I will add more comments tomorrow night. |
An update. The Stillpoints are very good indeed. I can we why they are so popular. They certainly work as advertised. I decided to sell them as I prefer the Apprentice stands. The Stillpoints do sound different folks. The Ultra SS footers still have a more rounded sound in the bass. The imaging can be spooky good at times with sounds appearing out of nowhere and hanging in a 3D space that is spooky cool. They cost $2000 for a set of eight so they better be good and they are.
The Star Sound Apprentice stands cost about half that with 8 of the 1.5 inch Audio Points per stand. The bass is now more apparent and the sound more relaxed as compared to sound with the stands under the speakers for a couple of hours. I must admit I had a hard time believing these things settle in, but they do indeed. The sound is now more natural and unforced.
Most areas of sonic performance are improved with the Apprentice stands as compared to the Stillpoints. Music has more life, energy and dynamic impact. Increased resolution and micro details are readily noticeable. Images are more razor sharp and resolved. Seems to be more decay and sparkle to the music and instruments.
The Stillpoints do this 3D imaging thing better. They are still softer sounding and rounder in the bass. Some will like this for sure.
It has been 48 hours now and I will report back at 72 hours. |
Forgot to mention one of the most interesting changes in 48 hours with these Apprentice stands. The bass is much more powerful and forceful as compared to hour 2. More powerful and articulate than the Stillpoints. Again, the Stillpoints seem to give a softer, rounder bass.
The bass is so good with these Star Sound stands....but give it some time. It just shows up after some 36 hours or so and bam! Oh my....very nice indeed. Really it is just like that....boom there it is and the bass comes alive right before my ears. It happened just like that. Strange, but my experience. |
My speakers weight 125 pounds each. They are on a carpet and the carpet is over concrete. |
I agree that the stands don't all of a sudden change the perspective from row ten to one. If your system and speakers give you row one, then the stand will give you better sound in row one.
Agear has a killer row one room and speaker!
My speakers are not quite row one, but the stands made them more of what they already were if that makes sense... |
Ok after 4 days these Star Sound Apprentice stands have fully bloomed! Natural tone, luscious bass, engaging mids......all served up with all the dynamic energy you hear in live music. These are really a wonderful investment and marvelous. I want to repeat they do settle in over 72 hours and become more full bodied and natural sounding. |
Who'a daddy? Who's my daddy? |
Agear's room is not treated, no it is birthed from the ground up. I have heard his room and my voice has never sounded so wonderful. I had no idea I sounded so incredible! Simple conversation was startling and so alive. An experience I will never forget.
I know this about that room. I have no doubt a set of decent used $100 speakers and a receiver would sound better in his room than many high end systems in typical rooms. No joke fellow Aphiles. A revelation to be sure. |
