Stillpoint Ultra Minis

I have your same experience using these under my PS Audio P3. I tried the Ultras as well but did not hear any difference from the Minis. I also tried both the Ultras and Minis under my CDP/DAC and integrated but did not hear as much improvement. I may revisit using the Ultras under my integrated again in the near future after I complete my room treatments.

I have Stillpoints Ultra Fives under all my components/speakers except for the Oppo 105 under which I have the Ultra SS (as the Fives don't fit). I was blown away. Probably the best upgrade I've ever done, short of hiring Jim Smith to set up my speakers/subs. The best part is, these products last for a lifetime.

Tboooe:
I find Roy Gregory's observations to be exceedingly accurate.He rarely makes comments that are not repeatable by others. I would have started with the cones under the CD player first, but for his suggestion. I already had them under the integrated amp, but prior to that, I had it under one of my Hurricane amps, listening carefully to determine if I could hear the difference. I COULD and it was significant but when I got the second pair, I put it under the PS Audio. It was at THAT point that I found myself astounded, so I suppose the power supplies of a line conditioner does put significant noise back into the system.
I noticed that Robert Harley of TAS also had tips on how to make your system sound better. He used several examples that the late Enid Lumley of TAS espoused back in 1993: don't put your rack in a corner, because sound builds up in the corner (even with a 16-inch tube trap). He also suggested keeping the speaker cable off the floor (another original suggestion by Ms. Lumley, and one that many people say they can't hear. I'd say that, in that case, their room is interfering, because it is noticeable as intertransient-silences, making rhythm and flow much more obvious, and this is something the Stillpoints also do. I listened again tonight, after putting a 4th Mini under the Power Plant. Again, it made a difference, completely out of proportion to what it should have done. I should note, Roy said 3 were good, but 4 were better...and he was right.
It's unfortunate that people don't try these out. I'd do this after 1), treating my electricity AND room (I think these must be done first - and usually at the same time) and then, 2), getting a line conditioner to further clean up the electricity. I've had dedicated circuits since 1988, and used power cords since 1990, and receptacles..well, I came to those late.
Isolation devices under the amps: I came to those reasonably early, with Goldmund's cones. The Stillpoints surpass the Goldmunds pretty easily, to the point where I'd not use anything OTHER than the Stillpoints, as they were so clearly fantastic, and so easily heard (as long as you put them in exactly the right position, and don't just plunk them underneath the component - which many people don't seem to want to be bothered with. Too bad, because it always makes a difference where you place an isolation device).
Glad to have someone else on board with these. Music Direct, who is sending me another set, told me today they had sold out of these.

You should have started with Stillpoints under your speakers first. The Stillpoints are something to behold.
Tim

Divinetrader, as I tried SP Ultra SSs under my speakers before the Ultra Fives were available, I found they were great. I bought more and up them under my amps and my turntable. Then I heard their Ultra Fives. Under speakers the Fives just blew away the SSs. Later under my amps they blew away the SSs as well as under my turntable.

My major problem with the Ultra Fives was their cost and their size. Size was often a major problem under components with big feet of their own. I know a guy who owns 92 Ultra Fives with their bases!

Then came the Ultra Minis. I also got the long awaited SP Grids for my SP Rack. They were mindbendingly superior to the acrylic shelves that alway held back the performance of their rack. My first sets of Ultra Minis was without bases to use on the Grids. I also thought to use them in place of Ultra SSs on one of my SP Component stands. I could hear no loss in going down to the Minis from my Ultra SSs.

Obviously, the StillPoint Ultra Minis are going to sell as they are much cheaper than the Ultra SSs or Ultra Fives. I wouldn't think of using them under my 180 pound speakers, however.

One needs to be careful with the SP Ultra Minis and the ceramic balls are tiny and might shatter with a substantial impact.

I did try the Ultras under my monitor speakers but did not hear substantial improvement. I think I heard a bit more clarity. Perhaps this has to do with monitors versus heavier floor standing speakers? I think I read somewhere that the lighter weight of monitors make coupling to the floor better than isolation. I don't know. However, I so intend to revisit the Stillpoints for my speakers along with the Starsound spikes after I finish treating my room.

Tboooe, about a year ago, I used SP Ultra Fives under the stands of LSA1 and heard a substantial improvement. Of course, the cost of the Ultra Fives far exceeded that of the LSA1s.

One thing I have found about the Ultra Minis is that they actually work better
if you use four of them instead of three. (I didn't want to believe Roy Gregory,
but empirical experience proved me wrong.)

One of my amps was being repaired and I put the Ultra Minis under the NAD
C325 BEE integrated. The bottom of the NAD has vents all over the place, so I
had to place the minis in certain spots. It sounded fantastic, no two ways
about it. However, I inadvertently jarred the amp while removing the speaker
wires, and when I put them back in - with banana plugs - I noticed, listening
to the Helios release of the Rimsky-Korsakov 'Antar' recording, that the flutes
and piccolos did not 'dance' as fluidly - or as clearly - as they had before. I
immediately noticed the amp's orientation was, instead of facing, as before, at
a 9 o'clock - 3 o'clock position, was more a 8-2 position (maybe an 8 - 10
degree change). This put the Stillpoint feet at different points under the NAD.
I could hear it as a haze that held back the fluidity of the music, making the
aforementioned flutes sound more as though they were playing notes, instead
of playing 'emotions.' So, I pushed the amp back to the 9 - 3 position, and as
I did so, the upper harmonics of the flutes materialized. The stage also
widened a bit.
Now, the NAD has a very flimsy casing. But I found the same thing under my
Arcam FMJ CD player. If not balanced to the 'nth' degree, I could lose some
clarity - and transparency (not the same thing) - and dynamics. It should also
be noted that, due to the very slight haze, soundstage layers were
compressed as well, and imaging. I did this, by the way, about 10 minutes
ago, so it's clear what it sounded like at 11 am, and what it sounded like when
I (temporarily) put in a different set of bananas (old Monster Cable one, since
they were joined instead of single bananas, which can vibrate ever so slightly).
I'd also heard a consistent brightness on nearly all my music, but found out,
when I examined the single bananas, after removing them and putting in the
Monsters, that one of the single bananas had - without me seeing it - lost
some of the nine-point touch prongs, and, in addition, were dirty. I cleaned
the one plug with Deoxit, then did the other and put them back in the system,
making sure the connection was more secure. Brightness gone. Quiet, non-
hazy transparency and fluidity back on show, front and center! And the
layering is back.

After this experience, today I ordered 2 more of the Ultras, so I could balance
the main amps (the Hurricanes) on 4 feet instead of 3 when I return them to
the system this week. Given that the Ultras allow a little bit of height
adjustment, this is a good thing (I could NOT do this with the Nordost cones).
Roy Gregory strongly suggests 4 cones, and, given my experience with both
the CD player and the integrated amp where Stillpoints reside, as well as
under my PS Audio Power Plant (wow, what a different THAT made), I'd have to
agree. Three WILL sound good - until you put 4 under them, and then the
increase in transparency is like going from a good Canon lens to an "L" series
lens: so much more resolution and quietness in the background that one can
easily hear the trumpet players in the back row, while pausing for their
entrance, taking a breath right before they start to play.
The Stillpionts are, I suppose, expensive, relatively speaking (but no more
expensive than the Nordost cones. In fact, LESS expensive) it beats
auditioning a 6K preamp or amp or speakers, yet not truly hearing 100% of
the what you might end up buying. (And making purchases that one regrets 6
months later? My early days were littered with such purchases, and they were
expensive mistakes!)

I'd never have thought the NAD could be as delicate as it is. Truth to tell, it
almost sounds tube-like in its delicacy and emotional engagement. And I
recommend the NAD to any friend looking for an inexpensive integrated, so
I've heard them in 4 or 5 other systems, with many different brands of
isolation feet under them, up to, and including Goldmund cones, as well as all
the different iterations of the Nordost isolation feet.

The Stillpoints, which cost as much as a used NAD BEE integrated, elevate the
NAD to a sound quality level more akin to the Arcam FMJ 32 (which I have,
and is 5x as expensive). In fact, slight darkness aside, I prefer the NAD for its
full-bodied sound, extremely good focus, and very, very low noise floor. As
good as it sounded before, with the Stillpoints, aside from ultimate resolution,
there is little to not like if you're a music lover (and the audiophile stuff, such
as imaging, increases with the Stillpoints, too, so you get nearly everything!)
Finally, I find that the smaller changes (isolation feet, receptacles and,
perhaps, something that keeps speakers off the floor (I use Shunyata
Darkfield V2 elevators) allow one to audition very expensive
components with complete confidence that you are actually hearing the
COMPONENT under audition and not the shelf it's sitting on, or the internal
vibrations that shake, rattle and roll the power supply. I've made mistakes
before (haven't many of us??) buying 'up' when it would have made more
sense to have gotten a better ac receptacle or played with tube trap
positioning, than buy a new amp, which is surely a more expensive
proposition than making sure everything ahead of it is staying out of the way.

The Stillpoints are permanent fixtures in my system. I wouldn't even think of
evaluating a component without them under it. Really, the improvement
allows the purity with which music comes out of your speakers to sound
glorious and engaging.

It's 2024 and I'm just now reading this Stillpoints thread (I know, late to the party) but can someone please tell me if the pointy ends of the Stillpoints Ultra Minis are supposed to point upward at my amp case with the bases resting on my component shelf, or vice versa?

I haven't bought the Ultra Minis yet, or decided whether the V2 version would be a noticeable improvement over the V1 Minis, which are a lot cheaper (used). I'd love to hear some feedback about whether the upgrade's worth the extra money.

During the past year or so I've been totally schooled about the value of lowering my system's noise floor, adding IsoAccoustics GAIA IIs under my GoldenEar Triton One speakers, Audioquest Fog Lifters under my MIT Magnum M1.3 cables (purchased 6 months ago), added Sablon Audio Gran Corona and Corona Reserva power cords, and installed CruzeFirst Maestro outlets in my stereo's dedicated line. Beginning with the Maestro outlets (mind blowing), and followed later by the Sablon cords, each upgrade has been truly eye opening, opening up more and more detail in mixes of recordings I've known for years. Now that I'm finally retired and have time to sit and listen to my stereo, I'm hoping adding the Stillpoints will strip away even more veils on recordings, because other than Stillpoints and tracking down MIT Magnum M1.3 interconnects to match the speaker cables, I think I'm all done with equipment upgrades.