Stillpoint Ultra Minis


I'm wondering who else might have these.
I had purchased a pair of these a month ago, and had them under my ASL Hurricane (only bought enough for one amp).
I clearly heard their effect, which, in another thread - one I read just now - concerning the SR MIGS, one poster pointed out the significant difference they made. And I agree.
Today, I received another set of 3. Based on Roy Gregory's review in The Audio Beat, I put them under my PS Audio Power Plant,expecting an improvement - and a significant one - but not an I'm-dying-kill-me-NOW improvement. I would be wrong.
These surpass my Nordost Brass cones by a minimum of two orders of magnitude. It would be like going from a good set of speakers to a fantastic set of speakers (speaking of which, I bought Nola Contenders, which haven't yet arrived, so I'm using my old Hales. I have several Nola models, but not bi-wiring for them, so I'm using the Hales, which are excellent speakers, but not nearly as coherent as Nolas).
Needless to say, buy these and put them under your power conditioner FIRST. I had them under an Arcam integrated while one my Hurricanes is in for a resistor replacement...again (sigh). Great amps, but the resistor blows about once a year. Their realism, however, is phenomenal, easily the equal of my Jadis, Goldmund Mimesis 9,and VTL (300s) amps. Not in detail, but in dynamic range/contrast and sheer it's-right-THERE realism, they leave the others in the dust.
I have to mention I also just bought a pair of Nordost Frey 2 interconnects, and thought they were a superb improvement over the Tyr 1 interconnects I have, but when I put the Stillpoints into the system, I realized the Frey were nowhere NEAR what they must truly sound like, and now I can hardly wait to get my Hurricane amp back and the Contenders.
To the point: the Stillpoints drop the noise floor ENORMOUSLY. Nina Simone's 'Ne Me Quitte Pas' is so without noise that her breathiness is as though you moved from Row K to Row C. It's THAT obvious. No straining to hear the improvement. I actually looked around my listening room, trying to remember if it was one of my 40 tube traps that I must have moved to their very, very optimal positions (these things improve - or destroy - ambience with a turn that is so little, you can barely see that you moved the side with the seam at all (which I demonstrated to a friend Sunday night by turning on all the lights in the music room and showing him minute a change I made in the orientation of the tube trap).
I hadn't moved anything.
Try these beFORE you buy new amps, new speakers, new ANYthing. And look at Roy Gregory's review. It's an excellent review and he makes it clear where to start with these - and where to put them last (Ithink he said under the CD player. In other words, speakers first, then line conditioner, amps, then preamps and LASTly, under the CD player).
Staggeringly good footers. Better than my Goldmund cones, any of my different iterations of Nordost feet (I have every single iteration they've released), Finite Element Cera pucs/bases or anything else. Expensive? Yes. $375 for 3 feet. I'd never used Stillpoints before this, but I can tell you, I'm buying these for the preamp, the other amp, the CD player and my friend's NAD BEE integrated. Cheaper than new speakers and after reading Gregory's review, I'd have to agree that putting the feet under anything with transformers/power supplies is the very first place to put these. You can't go wrong with one set of these under your line conditioner or amp, and if you do, send 'em back to your dealer. (You won't.)
gbmcleod

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Tboooe:
I find Roy Gregory's observations to be exceedingly accurate.He rarely makes comments that are not repeatable by others. I would have started with the cones under the CD player first, but for his suggestion. I already had them under the integrated amp, but prior to that, I had it under one of my Hurricane amps, listening carefully to determine if I could hear the difference. I COULD and it was significant but when I got the second pair, I put it under the PS Audio. It was at THAT point that I found myself astounded, so I suppose the power supplies of a line conditioner does put significant noise back into the system.
I noticed that Robert Harley of TAS also had tips on how to make your system sound better. He used several examples that the late Enid Lumley of TAS espoused back in 1993: don't put your rack in a corner, because sound builds up in the corner (even with a 16-inch tube trap). He also suggested keeping the speaker cable off the floor (another original suggestion by Ms. Lumley, and one that many people say they can't hear. I'd say that, in that case, their room is interfering, because it is noticeable as intertransient-silences, making rhythm and flow much more obvious, and this is something the Stillpoints also do. I listened again tonight, after putting a 4th Mini under the Power Plant. Again, it made a difference, completely out of proportion to what it should have done. I should note, Roy said 3 were good, but 4 were better...and he was right.
It's unfortunate that people don't try these out. I'd do this after 1), treating my electricity AND room (I think these must be done first - and usually at the same time) and then, 2), getting a line conditioner to further clean up the electricity. I've had dedicated circuits since 1988, and used power cords since 1990, and receptacles..well, I came to those late.
Isolation devices under the amps: I came to those reasonably early, with Goldmund's cones. The Stillpoints surpass the Goldmunds pretty easily, to the point where I'd not use anything OTHER than the Stillpoints, as they were so clearly fantastic, and so easily heard (as long as you put them in exactly the right position, and don't just plunk them underneath the component - which many people don't seem to want to be bothered with. Too bad, because it always makes a difference where you place an isolation device).
Glad to have someone else on board with these. Music Direct, who is sending me another set, told me today they had sold out of these.
One thing I have found about the Ultra Minis is that they actually work better
if you use four of them instead of three. (I didn't want to believe Roy Gregory,
but empirical experience proved me wrong.)

One of my amps was being repaired and I put the Ultra Minis under the NAD
C325 BEE integrated. The bottom of the NAD has vents all over the place, so I
had to place the minis in certain spots. It sounded fantastic, no two ways
about it. However, I inadvertently jarred the amp while removing the speaker
wires, and when I put them back in - with banana plugs - I noticed, listening
to the Helios release of the Rimsky-Korsakov 'Antar' recording, that the flutes
and piccolos did not 'dance' as fluidly - or as clearly - as they had before. I
immediately noticed the amp's orientation was, instead of facing, as before, at
a 9 o'clock - 3 o'clock position, was more a 8-2 position (maybe an 8 - 10
degree change). This put the Stillpoint feet at different points under the NAD.
I could hear it as a haze that held back the fluidity of the music, making the
aforementioned flutes sound more as though they were playing notes, instead
of playing 'emotions.' So, I pushed the amp back to the 9 - 3 position, and as
I did so, the upper harmonics of the flutes materialized. The stage also
widened a bit.
Now, the NAD has a very flimsy casing. But I found the same thing under my
Arcam FMJ CD player. If not balanced to the 'nth' degree, I could lose some
clarity - and transparency (not the same thing) - and dynamics. It should also
be noted that, due to the very slight haze, soundstage layers were
compressed as well, and imaging. I did this, by the way, about 10 minutes
ago, so it's clear what it sounded like at 11 am, and what it sounded like when
I (temporarily) put in a different set of bananas (old Monster Cable one, since
they were joined instead of single bananas, which can vibrate ever so slightly).
I'd also heard a consistent brightness on nearly all my music, but found out,
when I examined the single bananas, after removing them and putting in the
Monsters, that one of the single bananas had - without me seeing it - lost
some of the nine-point touch prongs, and, in addition, were dirty. I cleaned
the one plug with Deoxit, then did the other and put them back in the system,
making sure the connection was more secure. Brightness gone. Quiet, non-
hazy transparency and fluidity back on show, front and center! And the
layering is back.

After this experience, today I ordered 2 more of the Ultras, so I could balance
the main amps (the Hurricanes) on 4 feet instead of 3 when I return them to
the system this week. Given that the Ultras allow a little bit of height
adjustment, this is a good thing (I could NOT do this with the Nordost cones).
Roy Gregory strongly suggests 4 cones, and, given my experience with both
the CD player and the integrated amp where Stillpoints reside, as well as
under my PS Audio Power Plant (wow, what a different THAT made), I'd have to
agree. Three WILL sound good - until you put 4 under them, and then the
increase in transparency is like going from a good Canon lens to an "L" series
lens: so much more resolution and quietness in the background that one can
easily hear the trumpet players in the back row, while pausing for their
entrance, taking a breath right before they start to play.
The Stillpionts are, I suppose, expensive, relatively speaking (but no more
expensive than the Nordost cones. In fact, LESS expensive) it beats
auditioning a 6K preamp or amp or speakers, yet not truly hearing 100% of
the what you might end up buying. (And making purchases that one regrets 6
months later? My early days were littered with such purchases, and they were
expensive mistakes!)

I'd never have thought the NAD could be as delicate as it is. Truth to tell, it
almost sounds tube-like in its delicacy and emotional engagement. And I
recommend the NAD to any friend looking for an inexpensive integrated, so
I've heard them in 4 or 5 other systems, with many different brands of
isolation feet under them, up to, and including Goldmund cones, as well as all
the different iterations of the Nordost isolation feet.

The Stillpoints, which cost as much as a used NAD BEE integrated, elevate the
NAD to a sound quality level more akin to the Arcam FMJ 32 (which I have,
and is 5x as expensive). In fact, slight darkness aside, I prefer the NAD for its
full-bodied sound, extremely good focus, and very, very low noise floor. As
good as it sounded before, with the Stillpoints, aside from ultimate resolution,
there is little to not like if you're a music lover (and the audiophile stuff, such
as imaging, increases with the Stillpoints, too, so you get nearly everything!)
Finally, I find that the smaller changes (isolation feet, receptacles and,
perhaps, something that keeps speakers off the floor (I use Shunyata
Darkfield V2 elevators) allow one to audition very expensive
components with complete confidence that you are actually hearing the
COMPONENT under audition and not the shelf it's sitting on, or the internal
vibrations that shake, rattle and roll the power supply. I've made mistakes
before (haven't many of us??) buying 'up' when it would have made more
sense to have gotten a better ac receptacle or played with tube trap
positioning, than buy a new amp, which is surely a more expensive
proposition than making sure everything ahead of it is staying out of the way.

The Stillpoints are permanent fixtures in my system. I wouldn't even think of
evaluating a component without them under it. Really, the improvement
allows the purity with which music comes out of your speakers to sound
glorious and engaging.