@hce1 - I never intended to denigrate anyone with my criticisms, and looking at what I wrote, I can't see where I did that. I know for a fact that some cable companies are in fact making obscene margins with very questionable product claims. This is not research that trickles down either. Each unproven claim is based upon (as a rule) an untested theory. This is no different than pointing out that the electronic devices used to find spirits or ghosts, don't. Despite the belief by the many people that buy them to the contrary.
I'm sorry you find my criticisms crass and disrespectful. They aren't intended that way. Is this AG forum only for "true believers"? I think there is room for a more skeptical POV in the mix. It's not negative. It is anything but. I believe that people who haven't formed an opinion on this thing or that in this hobby deserve to hear more than just one side of a claim about "tweaks" -- many of which do work and make a real difference (system by system, room by room).
Just because you saw it does not make it real. Just because you heard it does not make it real. That is freedom. That IS open-minded.
SR Tuning Discs, Psychoacoustic Bias and Listening Fatigue
By the way the SR Tuning Discs are snake oil. They don’t make a damned bit of difference. Careful about psychoacoustic bias. Fresher ears hear small differences greater than fatigued ears. At first listen, again A-B ing instantaneously with streamer cable plus Disc against exact same master and material on CD player transport digitally into same Bryston DAC, the two sources about 5 seconds apart to hear “phrase” of that duration in instant back to back repetition, I THOUGHT I heard a shocking large difference. But it was the first listen of the day. Then removed Disc from cable and did same thing. A LITTLE less dramatic difference. Ok. Then put Disc back onto cable. About the SAME as last. Hmmm. Then repeated this whole process about 6 more times to be sure. Then left room for hour. Came back in and did test once WITHOUT Disc. BIG DIFFERENCE. Like first test of the day with Disc ON cable.
CONCLUSION : THE DIFFERENCES I HEARD WHICH I INITIALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE SR TUNING DISCS WERE PSYCHOACOUSTIC AND LISTENING FATIGUE BIAS. SYNERGISTIC RESEARCH TUNING DISCS MAKE ZERO DIFFERENCE.
But that’s my opinion. You can take it with a grain of salt if you so desire.
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@wesheadley As I said in my previous post, I was making no accusations against you. The subject of our discussion is one that tends to generate dismissive and mocking comments, which I find unpleasant and inappropriate. I feared you might misunderstand my general comment about those posts as a personal one. It was not directed at anything you said. Please accept my apology for the confusion. |
And I don’t want to mock. I really don’t. So I did take the task seriously and really really tried to hear a benefit. But didn’t. Either straight signal or with a high end studio analog mastering EQ with W shaped curve in signal path. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It simply means I didn’t hear it. It MIGHT mean it doesn’t exist however… To the mocking part…c’mon folks!! This is HIGH END AUDIO! We are paying thousands for gear all the time! SR wants to use sticky PUTTY to attach the tiny disc to the cable! They and others have said it’s best at or near the terminal source end. Just incorporate it into cable design, so it’s aesthetically pleasing! It’s ridiculous! Sheesh, SR could REALLY rake in big bucks by doing exactly that but offering different location options on the cable. Which undoubtedly invite many enthusiastic souls to spend inordinate amounts of money buying many more cables than they need. Wouldn’t SR love THAT boost in profits. Regarding loaner batch of three, I bought Shunyata Theta. Sounded best. With or without disc and putty!
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