Speakers & the room


After a couple of years playing around with different speaker positions I came to a conclusion.My room sucks..No matter what I do I can't get it right..My room is about 15x24 with 3 different ceiling hights..My speakers are about 5' from the back wall and 3' from the sides.This seems to be the best but it's so far off from what I want.I have moved my listening position everywhere also.If I sit at the same distance away from the speakers as they are apart my imaging is great but I'm missing the bass and the extreme lows.And of course if I move my listening position farther to the back wall i get great bass but the imaging vanishes.I hear very large tonal changes with even small changes in my listening position.is my room doomed or is there help?My speakers are Artemis/EOS full range with tons of acoustic treatments from auralex.Any help would be appreciated..
spaz

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When I had the EOS Sigs in my apartment I had them about 7 feet apart, too, with a listening distance of about 11.5 feet. Absolutely wonderful with really good bass.

Kal
Consult Rives or consider posting this along with a diagram of your room including all relevant objects to the room acoustics thread on AVS forum. The latter is free but you will have to decide for yourself among the many opinions you will get.

Kal
It looks like a great setup but there are a few things you might consider before going to a subwoofer. It seems to me that both imaging setup and bass setup is critical:

1. Repositioning the speakers. They look too close to the side walls and aimed straight ahead. Consider moving them and toeing them in to cross in front of the listening position. This way you will be as much off-axis as now but soundstaging should be equally good but positioning less critical.

2. Consider other/different room treatments. The effects you are experiencing may be due to an excess of mid- to- high frequency absorption but little effect on the residual room modes. All that relatively thin foam, even the stuff in the corners, will have much, much less effect on the bass than high density fiberglass bass traps. You can do this best with decent bass traps (RealTraps, GIK, etc.) but another option is the Rives PARC which will do this electronically.