Speakers sounding dull? MUST READ! The truth about speaker design!


Do your speakers sound dull and lifeless?  Well that's because speakers are not made from real musicians, or even real musical instruments.  Well I alone have a solution for this...

 

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erik_squires

Showing 8 responses by timlub

Kenji, I have to ask. Are you pretending or trying to create a persona? Its hard to believe that someone can really act so arrogant and the spew such clueless information such as you do. Then to top it off, you call yourself the Master or the Only one in the world that truly understands speakers.

If this is all a hoax, my gosh, you are good and deserve to be called Master. If you are serious in all of your post and replies.... God Love Ya, because the way you act toward others, no body else will.

I have to say, either way, you can be quite entertaining and for that, I do appreciate you. @kenjit Tim

@kenjit I thought this would be easy, however, everytime I went back to find a thread, the first 13 that I clicked on were deleted...... and several more thereafter.

But Here you go, all of this shows a failed understanding of speaker design:

"The reason that perfect speakers do not exist will hereby be revealed. So a perfect speaker would be a wall made of concrete. It would have two or perhaps three small holes in it. The drivers would then be placed inside these holes. Linkwitz riley 24db octaves and you’re done."

"The magico speaker still only uses a cabinet that is a few inches thick at best. My speaker invention would be ten times thicker at a fraction of the cost!"

"Magicos are very expensive, solidly built and heavy however there is one problem which the speaker engineers didnt think of when it came to designing the speakers. The woofers in a Magico generate sound from both the front and the back. The problem is that the sound from the back is obviously contained inside that big solid enclosure and after it has reflected around the box, it becomes NOISE. So now you have generated NOISE inside the box which has to be dealt with. The only way to get rid of that nasty noise is to cut a hole using a drill into the back of the cabinet. The hole will need to be big enough to vent the noise. The noise will then need to be vented somewhere far away from the listening environment as you dont want to be hearing that while the music is playing. "

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all interconnects are the same. Ive just had a look at your amp and its a class D so you will need to get rid of that and buy a class AB. Next you will need a speaker retune by a speaker tuner. There are not many of those around thesedays.

Its not what you wanted to hear but those are the facts."

"There is another problem within the speaker industry which is largely ignored by most speaker companies. A speaker cone will emit sound of equal intensity from both sides of the cone, front and back. One of the big problems is that the rear wave is not in phase with the front wave. Nobody has so far figured out how to turn the rear wave fully in phase with the front wave. If this could be done, we would actually not need a box for the driver. It could just be mounted on a bit of mdf and put on a speaker stand and it would sing."

"If you look at the high end speaker market, what you will find is that the problem mentioned in this article has largely been ignored. In this respect it is justified to claim that all speakers are the same. They all suffer from the same problems so they will all sound the same."

There are many more by the way, but this gets the point across. and to answer your post about my arrogance? The upper end scan speak drivers that you have are normally quite accurate in their measurements. You wanted minor dips in very specific frequencies. I needed very accurate impedance curves at all frequencies and I need very accurate driver curves at all frequencies. Also, I told you that I may need to do impedance compensation, which requires measuring the drivers themselves. You felt sense the impedance curves were fairly flat that they did not need any compensation. I could not get through your head that a rise or lowering of impedance over given frequencies does change its frequency curve. To make sure that I would achieve your desired curve. I needed the drivers to measure. 

 

 

@kenjit  I had your baffle size and we heavily discussed baffle stuff. You didn't  listen to what felt properly placed could do or absorb baffle step varies by frequency.  Still don't think that you would need much with the measurements you gave me. Do I need to look up more examples  of the depth of your knowledge? You requested those, but did not respond.  

@bigkidz .   Fieldcoils, I have zero experience using these drivers. I have a thorough understanding of how they work and am happy to discuss the pros and cons, but the easy low down is that they make sense. Consistent electrical field does wondersin overcoming driver design issues of traditional magnet drivers. Why do think we have alnico, strontium, neodymium and many others, a Consistent current makes a difference.  Nola, have never sat in front of them, but I'm happy to discuss, the trials and benefits of open baffle. The design is definitely more driver dependent and there are things that you can do to deal with the backside wave, but there are limitations.  If you have specific question, pm me or maybe start a thread and others can chime in.

@erik_squires . I thought the thread was quite witty, unfortunately for me, I understood where you were coming from. 

@pcrhkr    Not sure how I got picked for that comment, I have to assume that it was from my list of kenjit quotes.    But either way, I can completely understand your comment. However, although a perfect speaker may not exist, a near perfect speaker certainly could be created, yet not liked by many people for many reasons.  A specific frequency curve may be preferred by someone,  but in reality a speakers job is to accurately reproduce the original source.  Perfect phasing, perfect time alignment and perfectly flat response is the only way to achieve that... Then, besides personal taste, you have the issue of rooms to deal with.  My speakers that I use at home are built to be flat in My Room at My Listening position. 

@erik_squires    thats fine with me if you don't want a speaker accurately reproduce music.  

To each his own