Speakers "Disappearing"


I have read a lot about speakers "disappearing" so that one can't tell from where the sound is emanating. But, what about all the stereo tunes where the recordiing engineer intentionally pans the music to come from one side or the other? Can the speakers be made to "disappear" in that situation? Or, is it just the nature of the particular recording?
rlb61

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Most speakers will disappear better if you:
1. Pull them well out from the rear wall 1- 2mts. and at least 1mt from the side walls
2. Reduce toe in, so you can just see the inner side of the speakers from your listening position.
3: The biggie: get rid of all the image and depth sapping racks, equipment, and anything else from in between your speakers, put them on the side or behind you, this will open up a whole new world of image and depth for you, more than anything else.
Neville Thiel rip (from Thiel an Small speaker design fame) told me this ages ago and he was so correct.
That’s when you go to HiFi Shows the demo’s that have the best image and depth are the ones with nothing between the speakers, because they know.

Cheers George
The Chesky one I mentioned was the only one I’ve come across that centred on getting imagining and depth right with your speaker positioning.
Let me say right now though if you have all your audio gear on racks in between your speakers, say goodbye to your depth of image.
The best is nothing between the speakers and as back as far as you can, a speaker guru Neville Thiele (rip) told me this, who with his mate Richard Small invented the Thiele and Small T/S speaker parameters , and I’ve never looked back.
http://www.content-technology.com/peopleasia/?p=355

Cheers George
rlb61 OP234 posts03-24-2018 12:28pm@georgehifi ... thanks. I looked for "DJ 37 Sampler" instead of "Vol. 1." Unfortunately, it’s a digital download only and I’m a CD dinosaur.
I’m sure you can download it on this computer your on, then burn it to disc?

Cheers George
rlb61 OP232 posts03-24-2018 12:02pm@georgehifi  ... any idea where I can get that disc? I looked on Amazon and the Chesky website, but couldn't find it.
https://cheskyrecords.bandcamp.com/album/chesky-records-jazz-sampler-audiophile-test-vol-1

Cheers George
This can happen when you’ve got very good precise imaging and depth, in between and outside the speakers, and if the recording engineer has done it that way.
Play the imaging and depth tracks on this setup cd, it will tell you how your system fairs. Tracks 10 11 12

Chesky DJ37 sampler and setup test disc

Cheers George
@georgehifi - I downloaded the Chesky DJ37 sampler and setup test disc from HDTracks.com. Thanks much for the recommendation.
Useful CD for setup of the room. Be careful though, that you don't let it go passed track 27 as all the next tracks are for techs and bench testing only.
Pierre Varney discs suit  Is even far better again, but more for bench testing, and very expensive, if you can find a set

Cheers George