speakers and cables


this is about me being a loser and problem creator.

I finally got a 2nd subwoofer and I was excited to hook it up. Well, not too excited. I knew it would be a pain to hook it up. I was excited to hear it. I spent over 90 minutes connecting the speaker wires to my power amp. When I turned it on, the left channel was gone. It blew the fuse. I disconnected everything, replaced the fuse, hooked it up again. It worked for 10 seconds, blew the fuse again.

The way I hooked them up was I went from the sub speaker out from both subwoofers, rolled the left and right side wires together so I had 4 wires that I connected to the left and right plus and minus channels - speaker binders on the power amp. What are my options? My preamp has no sub out. Nor my amp.

Stupid question: should I just go from left to left on one sub and right to right on the other sub?

grislybutter

Showing 6 responses by immatthewj

If that’s the case I believe you can hook it up the way I suggested, like daisy chaining. Don’t know if that’s something you want to try but I’d sure be curious how it works out for you. Seems simpler than buying all that other stuff.

@thecarpathian , but why (or how) would that sound any better than the way @grisly is already hooked up?

I would have been inclined to live in the camp that wouldn’t try to integrate subs with good full range speakers that were capable of getting down into the low frequencies.

I understand. I guess the long story short, if I never tried, I would always wonder, what if....

Well, despite which camp I would choose to live in, I’ve read posts (it seems like several posts) by members who are using subs with full range speakers and seem to be very happy with the SQ that they are achieving. I assume that they are able to find a place on their sub’s low pass filter that integrates their sub with the woofers of their full range speakers, and I would THINK that the setting would be well below 80 hZ, but I am just surmising on that.

And from looking at the picture you posted underneath the diagram, you are using two way speakers, and I would think that would be doable.

. . . and on edit:  there is just absolutely no way, even once you get the HP filter and connect with RCAs, that you would be able to experiment with placing the subs behind your chair?

 

@grislybutter , I've continued to follow the saga, and my thoughts are, at the moment, that stacking the subs is not going to be the answer that you are looking for.

OOPS!  Ha ha, nobody ever hired me for my brains.  That might work.  I remember way back when I went to look at those B&W 805s, they had a three way B&W speaker at the show room also (I cannot remember if it ws the 802 or the 804 or what), and it basically reminded me of 805s sitting on top of a subwoofer.  

How is your Revel working out?

@grislybutter  , the last day to send them back has passed, so I guess they are mine now.  After the session that I had "officially" tallied at least 100 hours on them I hooked my B&Ws back up and I have to tell you that I was disappointed that the B&Ws didn't sound worse.  I considered sending the Revels back at that point.

But there was something about the way I felt when I was listening to the Revels that I was not/am not feeling with the B&Ws.  Which is why I suck at A/Bs and why I avoid doing them.  I don't know what it is that I hear or how to describe it but I know what I like listening to, if that makes sense.  I absolutely could not be a reviewer.  

My inability to be able to define what I hear is either a curse or a blessing.  I am not sure which.

Glad to hear the sub/speaker system is growing on you.  I think (and this applies to me) we often have such high expectations but we do not want to let ourselves be suckered in to confirmation bias so this all creates a mental conundrum that has an effect on our hearing.

And remember also that a brand new sub out of the box has break in as well.  Not only the speaker section but the amplification section. I'd let it settle in for a while and then contemplate incremental position changes.  Subs and speakers.  Although, personally speaking, that would drive me nuts.  Especially the way I have defined my own hearing.  "Do I hear it or do I not hear it."

Also, I wouldn't give up on that "true stacking" idea.