Speaker upgrade


I would like to hear thoughts on upgrading my speakers. I am very happy with my current system, but am thinking of upgrading the speakers. Not made up my mind yet, but very close. I have changed my gears recently and deciding whether to keep my current speakers or try different.
I currently have Aerial acoustics 7T, with 2 REL S5/SHOs. Aerial acoustics 7T are one hell of a speaker, and I never thought I will change them: they are very neutral and transparent, which plays exactly what you feed them. I still think they are excellent and In fact, on many forums, I have constantly bragged about them and still do, for good reasons. But I guess, time has come to change. Looking for speakers with better resolution, big soundstage, organic and sweet mids. If I can get more of everything my 7T does, it will be a jackpot. Budget is < 35K (used OK).
I have thought of Magico S5 MK2, Vimberg Tonda, Marten Mingus, Rockport Avior II. Others include Von Shweikert VR55 and Vivid Audio Giya G1. Hard to audition all, but have heard S5 Mk2 and Rockport Avior II which are close top.
My other systems include, AF strumento no. 4 mk2 amps, VAC renaissance mk V pre-amp fed by Luxman D-10x (DAC/SACD player) and Antipodes CX/S30 (server/streamer). I use roon mostly and listen vocals, Jazz, classical, Indie Rock, contemporary instrumental and the likes. Room size is 17 x 14 and height is 10 feet. I have already done all room acoustics. Cables are Silversmith Fideliums (never going to change that) and Shunyata anaconda/python, TQ black diamond and AQ Hurricane.
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it tends to come down to the type of music one predominantly listens to —whether it’s pop, classical, jazz, rock, etc that person generally is more likely to favor a certain speaker type/crossover design over another.
No, it doesn’t just tend to come down to that at all. The fact is that many well-designed speakers can play any genre of music really well. Then there’s the other side where people, like me, listen to almost every genre of music. With the plethora of excellent speakers out there, just knowing what type of music one listens to does very little to whittle down what speaker to buy. If you think you can make an excellent recommendation based on what music people listen to then you’re grossly underestimating many, many other extremely important variables and you’re just kidding yourself.

everyone has a flavor of speaker they worship and defend and profess to tell you why theirs is the best and yours simply is not — it’s the human condition on display.
And that is precisely why you can’t recommend a speaker for someone based on what music they listen to. And this is why I recommended the Pearls to the OP — not because it’s MY preferred flavor but because it has the sound characteristics he said HE values and is looking for, which gives you a lot more to go on than just music genre in my book. Again, lots of speakers can play multiple genres of music very well so it’s not sufficient to make a meaningful recommendation. Sorry if this concept is just too complicated for you, but I certainly understand why it could be comforting for someone to think they can pick speakers simply by music genre when they’re not capable of dealing with more of the important decision metrics. Maybe simple just works at your level. Congrats.


I heard “them” and it’s just another well made box speaker; they really are a dime a dozen where everyone has a favorite cause what it really comes down to is what music you predominantly listen to. And that should determine the speakers you demo and ultimately buy. 
Well, that’s one take on it.  Unfortunately I find it’s quite a bit more difficult and involved than that.  Of course that also makes it that much more rewarding when you ultimately narrow it down to the right speaker.  Telling me what type of music someone listens to doesn’t help me make recommendations much precisely because box speakers — or any good speakers — are NOT “a dime a dozen.”  If you really think that, then what are you even doing here?  Yeesh. 

Why are so many people promoting JA? These are off-the-shelf parts standard speaker designs. Which is fine, but it seems like a LOT of money for what is essentially premium DIY speakers.
Have you heard them?  That’s the reason.  Lots of “Best in Show” awards to back it up.  I challenge you to DIY the crossover.  It’s patented BTW. 

Don’t mean to beat the proverbial dead dog, but seeing as you’re lowering your price limit I’ll mention there’s a rare pair of JA Pearl 3s available here now for $18,200.  Woof.  
Rockports, Joseph Audio, Vivid Audio measure in around the same as the Aerial acoustics 7T and may perhaps be a lateral step rather than a significant step forward.
HA! I think not. I’d take a $35k speaker from any of those manufacturers over the 7T seven days a week and twice on Sunday. Lateral move my ass, and that they may measure similarly means precisely bupkis. I’ve heard the 7T and it’s a very nice speaker for sure, but against the Aviors, Pearls, Giyas — not a chance in hell. Measurements are important, but they ain’t near enough to throw out a statement like that.
Just thought I’d mention there’s a nice used pair of Nola Baby Grands at SkyFi Audio for $25k.  Tough to beat at that price. 
+1 JA Pearls.  From my experience I’d put them between Rockport and Magico house sound — more detailed than Rockport but more natural sounding than Magico.  Just my take FWIW.  Given what you’re looking for, I’d also put Nola on your list.  Their dipole dynamic drivers do special things for soundstage and a more “live” sound.  Boenicke is another one but very hard to find a dealer at this point.  Hope this helps, and best of luck.