Speaker Decision Paralysis (for large volume loft space)


Hi,

Due to technical issues, I'm posting under a new address. I have been a reader (and infrequent contributor) since 2005.  Folks on Audiogon helped me select my first pre amp, integrated, power amps, and (downselect) speakers on several occasions. I am grateful, even if I only upgrade - or try something different - with a fifth of the periodicity that others here do.

With that, I appeal to the board members' wisdom for some healthy pro/con of my downselected speaker options given the budget, room, and equipment mentioned below: maximum (shipped) budget is $3,400.

I live in a multistory loft with a wall of glass, 20'+ ceilings, and concrete floors. The rears of both floors are open, so while the theoretical volume of the combined dining/living space is roughly 20'w x 16'd x 21'h, the depth measurement of both is closer to 40'.

That said, I will use the speakers only for listening sessions at mid field on the first floor, and for ambience elsewhere. I listen to vocals, jazz, EDM, symphonic metal, show, classical (mostly Mozart, Bach, Haydn, and Holst), and Top40 (ha!).

Equipment is Parasound NewClassic 200 Pre + Parasound 2125v2 amp + Cambridge Audio SACD + streaming. I've only ever had monitors, from small to large, although I am not averse to floorstanders. I might be able to add some (mostly hidden) room treatments, but my place is decorated like a contemporary art museum, so the equipment and treatments cannot define the room, as much as they must become part of the décor. 

I auditioned for over two months, and downselected to the point of paralysis (with additional consternation from Crutchfield's current KEF sale):

- Totem Tribe Tower: colleague selling a white pair in my area for $3,150 (they depreciate rapidly); current 2nd choice

- Fyne 502: new, from NH salon (in white, lead time is 4 - 8 weeks); current 3rd choice ($2,500)

- KEF R3/LS50m: heard both with slightly limited auditioning and loved them; tied for 4th choice, although the R3s for the LS50's price at Crutchfield moves favor to the white R3. If the LS50m, would add two SVS 3000 Micro Subs; if R3, would start with one sub. (R3 @ $1,700 + $800*1 = $2,500 or Blue Metas w/ stands on Audiogon for $1,690 + $800*2 = $3,290)

- Tyler Lindbrook Signature Monitors: I know Ty, and have owned these in the past. He will build me another pair with the same stellar SEAS drivers. While no longer in the mode on Audiogon, I loved the pair we owned prior to 2010; currently 1st choice due to history. ($3,250)

After all of the listening, I arrived at those five choices after nixing models I couldn't audion. Additionally, as I'm a physicist by training, I spoke with Clayton at Spatial Audio about a Sapphire solution for my odd sonic situation; while a gentleman, he passed on working with me due to "the red flags" of my loft's design. I'm not asking for perfection, as I know the room precludes anything close. Really, though, the only downsides I could determine are:

1) The R3 needs stands (the blue Audiogon used Metas include them);

2) The stands for the Tylers are incredibly unattractive: huge back stands 15 years ago; same huge stands today, ugh; 

3) The LS50 Meta's distortion really kicks up below 100Hz (AudioScienceReview.com); and, 

4) Home auditioning is, unfortunately, out of the question - at least not easily (no for the two used pairs, no for the Fynes, and only maybe for the R3s).

None of those downsides, amid the current plan, can kick anything from the list. I realize that the LS50m might be the weakest competitor, but even they would probably outperform some of the mini monitors I've had over the years.

With apologies for the wordiness, your insights could prove invaluable! Thanks in advance.
tsequantass
You need displacement for a loft 


Looks t legacys  and a preamp eith room correction or run roon which had an eq  built in 

Room tuning is a must 

Dave and troy
Audiontellect nj
Legacys  dealers 



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Thanks for the continued comments.

I have stricken KEFs from the list. I think that means I'm left with Totem, Tyler, and Fyne.

I also appreciate the folks using personal, or relatable, experience with some of the equipment mentioned to help me. To others who mentioned room treatments...I have been reading about them, but I fear what I can implement will be limited to rugs. While that render a modest improvement, serious room conditioning won't happen until I build a dedicated listening room at another property.

One notion I cannot wrap my head around: why would horn loaded drivers work well in a hyper live environment like mine (yes, very Scandinavian)? Wouldn't they be in the same overly bright and forced category as KEF's big floorstanding units? I looked at some of JBL's offerings and remember them from my college days: bright and airy, sure, but really live, too. Regardless, the only horn loaded units I could find in my price range were JBL HDI-1600, at $2,000, and I have no local place to audition them.

 If anyone else has thoughts or suggestions, I am all ears (ugh)!
My two cents - if you have access to spinorama or similar measurements, look for smooth on and off-axis frequency response. You'll have a much higher chance of finding good sounding speakers for critical listening and background music.

Given your musical tastes, consider a full-range floorstander or augment with subwoofers. Bass extension accounts for a significant portion of sound quality perception. You may annoy neighbors if you're in a multi-unit building though.

As you've studied physics, you might find the following book useful and insightful - "Sound Reproduction - The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers and Rooms" by Dr. Floyd Toole. It contains all the information I mentioned before along with the research behind it.
Thoughts. 
1) Conventional box speakers, better dispersion in a large space. 
2) Softer trebled speaker based on room.
       (Huge congrats on an art-based room; it's what I have and I understand, no goofy treatments, so...)
3) Some/any type of good digital signal processing (dial it in for superb near-field serious listening, and let the background music be).

You may be best off with what you know, The Tyler Lyndbrook, but may wish for a sub to augment in your space.  Good luck!