Speaker Cables? why all the hype for expensive speaker wire?


After listening to many speaker cables, I am listening to basic 14 Gauge, high purity copper speaker wire and find myself shaking my head.  Does this basic speaker wire sound better than cables many times the price?  I am really starting to ponder that question.  I think I am hearing things on my records I never heard before and better balance of sound.  What are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are ; there is no point in spending money on anything if you cannot hear an improvement. If $5 cables sound as good as $5,000 cables to you, stick with the $5 cables. 
How times have changed … now it’s the deaf who call the folks with perfect hearing dumb. 😂🤣
It is a sort of religious cult where the secret keys to the audio kingdom are possessed by oracular golden ear pontiffs who disdain the idea of blind tests because mere science and physics can't hear what the "educated golden ear" can. Solipsism.

I wonder if the astronomy folks get the same anger from their visually impaired members?   
If you believe you hear it, fine.
But don’t lay your alleged superiority on all the rest of us.


I have a much better idea. How about the hearing impaired not frequenting an audiophile forum?

Sparing your feelings isn’t a valid reason to dumb down the forum. 
Nope because the Astronomers can prove with science what they see. 

Ok genius, you see a light in the sky, I don’t. Prove to me “scientifically” you’ve seen it. 








Nice answer about that there cosmic rays. Unfortunately nothing to do with the question I asked you.


Now back to my question. How do you “scientifically” prove you see a light in the sky when I don’t?





With so many words used to describe the effects and differences between cables why is it that the newcomer is unlikely to ever read that a $1000 cable remains sonically indistinguishable from a pair of twisted coat hangers connecting amp to speakers?

Because critical listening is learned and developed over time. Some are more capable on developing their ability to perceive than others.

The seasoned art critic is more capable than the novice art critic. The seasoned driver is more capable than the novice driver. The seasoned doctor is more capable than the intern. Somehow you cannot figure the same counts for audiophiles?

Why is it also that despite the enormous price differences between various cables that no cable has EVER been claimed to offer ANY sonic superiority?

The difference in musical performance of cables in audio have been well known and written about for decades.

Suggestion and inference can and do go a long way.

... but deafness will always take one nowhere.


Money doesn’t grow on trees

No we work and earn our own money. And how we choose to spend it is none of your business comrade.



If you are offended by high priced cables, don't buy them. If you are offended by people buying high priced audio cables, mind your own business. If you are offended because people with normal hearing hear things you don't, get yourself another hobby.
I don’t quite get the deaf audiophile society folks. Do they actually believe that by telling somebody there is no difference in cables, people are somehow going to "unhear" what they heard?

(That and the fact that they seem to think that the 1.8 GPA they managed to maintain throughout middle school somehow makes them qualified psychologists and ENTs.)

Scientific method states a hypothesis needs be developed to explain an observation. It does not say if you’re too ignorant to develop a suitable hypothesis, the observation is somehow false. There is not a single scientific law or model that says all cables will sound the same. There are thousands of observations over many decades that attest to cables sounding different.

While ignorance is clearly a requirement for membership of the deaf audiophile society, it does not prove all cables sound the same.