Speaker and Amp dilemma


My system is probably considered fairly low budget to many of those who post here, but I have a dilemma matching my speakers to my amp. I got a really great price right here on A'gon on a pair of Legacy Focus 20/20s, giants of a pair of speakers! I have them in a 20ft by 16ft listening room, so they have room to breath, but my existing amp is an old Forte Model 3, rated at 200 into 8, and 400 into 4, or there about. And while it does drive these speakers to satisfying volumes, it just lacks the wow factor, the toe tap test, and seems like it is in need of more current. From reading the forum on the Legacy website, most people who love these speakers use more power, a lot using as much as 500 to 600 watts.

So here is my dilemma, should I invest in a larger amp? Or smaller speakers? I had a very life altering experience at the local salon many years back listening to a pair of Martin Logan Sequals, and they are very much in my price range used these days. I could sell the 20/20's and have way more than enough to purchase a nice set of Martin Logan's of their larger models, used of course. So if I keep my amp, and sell my speakers and buy the M-L's, I come out ahead, but if I sell my amp and buy a Classe CA-400, (or the likes) then I need to make a major investment on my fixed retirement income. I hate to make a bad decision here, I wish I could afford to do both, and then judge later which ones to sell, but that may take me a very long time to pull that off. Not to mention a new turntable is also high on my want list.

So I appeal to those more experienced than I, what advice can you offer this man of limited means? Sell my speakers to buy M-L's and use the amp I have for a while longer? Save up and buy a new amp to drive the speakers I have? Or wait until I save up enough to do both? Thank you for taking the time to read my post!
alpha_gt

Showing 3 responses by tls49


Let's recap, one vote to change amp, one vote to go for M-L's, and one vote to go for a different speaker. Having owned Forte amps, listened to other Legacy speakers, and read the Stereophile review on the 20/20's, I'm not totally convinced amp/speaker is the problem for toe tap. Would you care to list your preamp, source, and speaker cables & interconnects?

Alpha_gt, thanks for sharing the rest of your system. Your Legacy speakers do have a high sensitivity, however there is some issue with impedance and phase angle at certain frequencies as noted by the Stereophile review. This would be a problem with a tube amp, but the Forte should have no problem at all, since it is a high current design and stable with a low impedance load. I don't think more power will accomplish anything except a little more ultimate volume.

I am curious that when you say "wow factor", are you refering to dynamics?

Hi Russell, I believe I understand better now, and the word engaging comes to mind. Sounds like you're looking for the music to pull you in and make you yearn for more.

I'm retired now, but worked in the audio industry for over 20 years, and have had quite a bit of experience with many different products and system set up. For Adcom amps, a 535, 5500, and a 5802. Also, had 2 Forte amps and a Threshold. Currently use a Musical Fidelity integrated, and had 2 others prior to this one. I still have many local friends calling me to "pick my brain", as they say, when they're having problems or thinking about upgrades.

No personal experience with Parasound, but did read a review on your preamp. Looks like a nice preamp, however it did say the phono stage was just OK, and seem to suggest that it could easily be improved with an inexpensive outboard phono stage.

You seem like a super nice guy, and if you would like to talk by phone, I would be happy to do so. You could call me, or I will call you. We could email directly through Audiogon, rather than posting numbers on the forum.

Tony