Sonus Faber Grand Piano Question


Hi.

I have been a big fan of B&W speakers and was looking to get the CDM 9NT to replace my aging CDM 1SE. But prices for B&W speakers in my country is ridiculously high.

Just by chance I spotted a pair of SF Grand Piano(old Concerto version, not the HOMES) going slightly below USD1,500 which is within my budget. Will be auditioning the speakers next week but just wanna get some opinions here beforehand.

I've heard that the Grand Pianos are laidback, warm and in a totally different character with the B&W's. Can these speakers go loud? I listen to everything from rock to pop and instrumental jazz like Fourplay and Acoustic Alchemy.
I'm worried my Classe CAP-100 integrated amp might not have enough juice to drive them since I like my music loud. Also I might combine music and HT together and they will be in a huge living hall. Can these speakers do for HT as well?

Until then any advice will be appreciated. Cheers.
kevinb9ca

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Exertfluffer you are darn right. The SF Grand Pianos smokes B&W CDM series (in my subjective opinion which is personal anyway). After listening to the speakers for a mere 40 minutes I’ve wasted no time and paid the deposit straight away(he’s got a few friends who are interested as well). Will be collecting those speakers this weekend.

These speakers are really good. They are smooth and refined yet possess a huge soundstage and a commendable bass that is strong enough to shake the room. Dynamics are as good as B&W’s as they can really boogie too! And the most amazing thing is the associated gears that these speakers are hooked too. Guess what (this will really make you laugh). Amplification is a China-made tube amp rated 32W, cd player is a cheapo Harman Kardon, speaker cables are some low-budget brand (forgot the brand) and interconnects are those you find supplied together in the box when you buy some Pioneer DVD player. With all these sub-par equipment I can tell you the sound will astound many even audiophiles alike. The reason the owner is hooking all these cheap gears to his speakers is to let newbies know that the speakers he’s selling are all good stuff and can produce high quality sound even without partnering high-end equipment. In this way, his customers won’t be too freaked out. If he were to hook up a $20,000 system then he will definitely scare his customers away as according to him he is targeting some novice audiophiles who have limited spending power.
I can’t wait to hook the Grand Pianos using my gear! If a 32W tube amp can drive the SF admirably well, I don’t think my 100W Classe integrated will have much problems. Even he thought my Classe will be even much better! My Sony XA7ES will definitely beat the pants off the Harman Kardon, and not to mention my Nordost Blue Heaven speaker cables and Wireworld Eclipse II XLR in comparison with his ‘non-branded’ cables. Really can’t wait…

Oh by the way, he also has a pair of SF Extremas which is very nice indeed sitting at one corner but anyway out of my budget. Auditioned a complete range of Mirage speakers too in his HT setup complete with a projector which is quite nice. By the way, do you know roughly how much does a used Sonus Faber Solo HOMES center speaker cost in US dollars? He’s got one in very good condition but price is slightly on the high side I think at 500 dollars.

The Grand Pianos will definitely bring a whole new dimension in my music listening. Never before I’ve experienced a smooth, refined and silky sound with a sweet midrange (that B&W is lacking) but also has dynamics and a huge soundstage that I previously thought will be sacrificed at the expense of the former.

Till then.
Hi Exertfluffler,

Wow that is a long write-up and thanks for the advice. Well I know that these Grand Pianos are not designed for HT as compared to the newer HOME version, so I may not use these in HT after all and put them in a dedicated listening room. I’m only contemplating of combining HT with music due to financial constraints. Maybe I’ll just get some cheap speakers for HT will do.

Anyway, if I solely use the Grand Pianos for stereo listening, it will be in a 11’6’’ x 17’10” x 9’(H) room. So you’re familiar with Classe amps too which is a good thing. You reckon the Classe CAP-100 won’t be able to drive them too well? What if the system is now in this rather ‘small’ room as mentioned above, and I just listen to fairly moderate volumes? If I do get these speakers, I won’t be listening to rock with them as that won’t do any justice to these fine speakers isn’t it? I’ve heard that they have smoothness that the B&W’s don’t have and possess some other fine attributes. The B&W’s will certainly be punchier and dynamic but the tweeter in the CDM 9NT is rather bright I heard and that’s not what I’m looking for. What I’m looking for is a smoothness of the sound and silkier vocals which I found lacking in B&W’s. But am afraid the SF may be too warm or laidback for my tastes as well! Anyway will be auditioning those speakers very soon, and those guys are using tube amps to drive them. Can’t possibly play rock or pop with them. So I might end up with 2 systems. SF for stereo listening and B&W’s for HT and rock. Will have to reshuffle my finances a little!