Sonical differences btw. Concentra II and Concert


Thinking of replacing my Concentra II with a Concerto integrated. Has got anybody at agon got a clue about their sonic differences? Thanks for your kind help!
frankpiet
As you all are experienced Rowland users: is the model 10 still a better performer than the model 201 ? Does anyone of know the company Chapter Audio?

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I am using Silent Source power cables from the Model 10 power supply to the Walker Velocitor S line conditioner, and from the Velocitor to the outlet. Interconnects and speaker cables can be very system dependent - I basically went with one of 2 types of speaker cable Wilson dealers typically recommend. Also, the Model 10 and my preamp are balanced designs, so that can also influence your choice of cable.

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I have had fabulous success using FIM/CRL cables with my Rowland Model 12, 302 & Synergy IIi. These PC's brought performance to a whole new level, from all performance aspects.

Because of system changes, I have some of these PC's available. If interested, send me an email.
yes. I´ve just bought an Audio Aero Capitole MK II SE. This unit provides a 100 step analog volume control. The speakers I use are highly efficient speakers. Load problems shouldn´t occur. Which power cords do you use on the Rowland gear? I personally use Electraglide. As speaker cable Shunyata and as interconnect Acoustic Zen. Any recommendations?
Best, Frank
Hi Frankpiet,
I have had both the model 10 and now own the concerto. {See my system pics.} I think on raw performance the two are very similar. The Concerto gives you so much more flexibility. It has 4 inputs, volume control, phono if you want it, and also runs very cool while using very little energy. The model 10's are great amps, but run warmer{ if this matters}. Also 2 powercords/ dedicated lines would be required for the 201's. If i was looking for an integrated, i'd buy the Concerto. If i was looking for an amp, i'd happily buy the model 10.
The model 10 is definitely a step up from the integrated. Just curious, are you planning on running the CD Player directly into the Model 10? I am currently using the Model 10 with the Aesthetix Janus upstream, as I employ multiple sources. Unless your speakers present an extremely difficult load, the Model 10 should provide plenty of headroom.
I´m just thinking of buying a model 10 instead of the 201`s and use it directly with my new Audio Aero Capitole II. Do you think this combo outperforms the current Concerto integrated ?
FP -A Concerto is basically 2-201s with an attached preamp-I do think separates provide more current(my EAD has more bass than the concerto)to drive your speakers-this is an obeservation but I feel its honest - I would use a Synergy2i and either a model 10 or 12 or 300 series amp-I had a model 10 with the synergy and was a good, powerful match - To replace your Rowland(with separates) would involve upping your budget by at least 50%_ I feel it would be worth it sonically , however, thats quite a jump in price to get there...
So would it be better to look out for JRDG seperates eg. 201 / 501 ? Thanks for your kind help.
FP- Having owned BOTH pcs. I could NOT tell a lot of difference sonically between the 2 - both sound wonderful but not a lot of difference. The new unit will be a little cooler to the touch and will play a little louder (more power) but I personally did not experience (almost twice) the rated power of the C2 - I was using Thiel 2.4, SimAudio Eclipse (balanced) into both pieces - To play these speakers fairly loud I would have to use (60 out of 100 displayed) on the Concerto and 72 (again out of 100) on the Concentra 2 _this is not totally scientific -just a personal (reasonable) observation - Again both are fine pieces but there is not a lot of discernable difference MHO