@lewm
great the TT101 but if I have not recommended it is only because if it presents problems it is difficult to repair .. while the TT81 is very comparable to the TT101 with a few less features and fewer problems.
Outside there are several unsolved TT101 cases.... and I'm one of them.
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The evergreen Technics SP 10mk2
or Jvc/Victor TT81 (QL8)
or Pioneer PL 70 (not PL70II)
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@uberwaltz
I am sure that the turntables recommended in this 3ad are all manual.
You can always opt for a Technics Sp10 MkII if you have patience to wait for your budget to reach the sum to buy it.
Keep in mind that the SP10 II not has special IC electronic components that are still on the market in the event of failures it does not have proprietary or specific ICs for applied that model like other turntables; this allows even in future years to find spare parts in case of problems.
However an extraordinary maintenance just purchased any vintage turntable must be taken into consideration and performed if you want to be at peace with yourself by removing all problems for many years; I always do that in the vintage turntables I buy and I feel protected.
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@lewm
Lewn you can disagree no problem, if you are more up to date with fresh news this is good and useful.
MN6042 .... mmmm .... I have to understand which is in the logic board and understand what function it has .... you say that inside the SL 1200 you find this chip? Good to know I will do an investigation and if it is true I’ll take that piece for spare parts
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@uberwaltz
Because the PL70 is equipped with the famous MU70 engine and should be identical or derived from (if I remember correctly) to the engine mounted on the Exclusive PL 10 which is better in quality than the PL70II engine even if the written specifications do not say so.
Furthermore the MU 70 in the past was sold separately as an engine this because at Pioneer they believed it very much.
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@lewm Lucky...the Sp 10II does not have that chip; I confirm that in the world there are still chips for the SP10II
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@@lewm Thanks tomorrow I deepen. :) |
JVC Victor QL8 or QL7 complete with plint and arm it is possible safely under $ 1000; they are very performing turntables |
Bads feedback bad seller.
Also JVC TT81 or QL8 have bi-diretional servo. |
@lewm
lewn with $ 1000 you do not buy a TT101 nor a QL 10 for this I recommended a complete QL 8 or just the engine of a TT81 .. it’s just a matter of budget.
@totem395
sorry then I was wrong ... I read a lot in this forum too and probably got drunk with exact and contrary readings.
Owner of a TT71 TT101 and TT801 yup :)
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So a JVC victor ql-7 uses the tt71 as its " heart" with a ua5045 tonearm?
Exact QL 8 there are differences in plinth (and weight of the plinth) and of turntables compared to upper QL7. How big? Can they be heard? It depends.... |
https://pbnaudio.com/pbn-dp80/
this (ihmo) turntable no longer has the dna of the DP 80 appears completely overturned .... is it only the engine and the electronics?
The elaborations very pushed forward like those of the Artisan Fidelity or Kaneta on the Technics Sp 10 even if improving the performances leave a little perplexed.
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If you think the TT101 is mechanically and electrically problematic, think about that 40-year old vacuum platter of the TT801, at least and fortunately the 801 only has this little motherboard and a small card for the power supply (bridge diode, regulators and filter capacitors unlike the 101 where total chaos reigns in the 2 motherboards and are decidedly more complex, making the repair of those who must work extremely difficult. TT101 https://i.postimg.cc/rFFjsQzt/jvc-41.jpgTT801 https://i.postimg.cc/RCb61RXt/tt801-c.jpg |
best-groove, Don't you think the "engine and electronics" ARE the DNA of any turntable, including the DP80?
Surely, but in this way it completely distorts what the Denon wanted to convey to the supporters of the brand. I do not doubt that the new project is better than the Denon project of 40 years ago, but the price to pay would be high and a likely resale so heavily modified could be long and difficult in finding a new owner or switching to a second hand. |
Both the TT-81 and TT-101 incidentally, have Bi-Directional Servo Control-FACT.
so I understood rightly! Is this information 100% safe and reliable? Is there a way to prove it? |
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(Mine came with a DA307 tonearm, which is sitting in a shoebox somewhere.)
Don't underestimate that arm to be considered junk. It is an excellent arm with a still low price on the market, it has not suffered the costly folly of many vintage pieces and is better mechanically and constructively than vintage arms that are now overrated and sold for hundreds and hundreds of dollars. I don't want to mention names so as not to hurt the sensitivity of some owners but I want to give a small example of many positive features of this tonearm (there are several): the rubber that separates the barrel from the counterweight of the DA307 even after 40 years from its construction is perfect if you look at it. does not crumble, does not break and is still perfectly elastic .... how much rubber used in audio products is so durable? |
@lewm ha ha haa I understand! I had misunderstood your sentence. |
I agree with Lewn ... the arms applied on the lower range turntables can resemble the same arms as the top models of the house but they are not the same thing in terms of materials and construction tolerances; just look at the standard arm on the JVC QL7 which looks tremendously like the 5045 but it's not quite the same thing, as for the Sony PS X50 turntable which has as standard a tremendously resembling arm to the PUA7 sold separately but is not qualitatively the same identical item .
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@Uberwaltz I read that some QL7 owners inserted Dynamat-type damping material in the empty spaces under the plinth, significantly improving the sound of the turntable. Pay close attention to the 4 feet of the plinth, the rubber will probably be compromised and broken after all this time as well as the damping rubber between the barrel and the counterweight of the arm .... I managed to save all 4 feet with a job of patient restoration. This after the rubber repair: https://i.postimg.cc/GpX3yCp6/DSCN6033.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/yYnR7k4z/DSCN5962.jpg |
the circuit board is simpler with more integrated circuits than the 1970’s TT71 naaaah ...impossible, I don't see in the TT71 a complicated board, just a messy wiring. :) https://i.postimg.cc/05cYb9Mt/P1010219.jpg |
It is not understood because many do not read all the posts but hasten to write their own solutions and advice.
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@uberwaltz
25 $ step down?
Make sure you have a good safety margin of Watt.
50 W minimum or better 100 W for the paltry cost of this accessory would be a good choice.
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@uberwaltz
a tolerance of + - 10% of the voltage is allowed but I would not risk playing too much with the luck.
Buy a step-down and let me turntable be happy. |
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@uberwaltz
in the phono stage signals of the microvolt order pass, use of commutation boxes and switches can happen as well as worsen the sound of capturing noises and hum; don't ruin everything.
Rather it changes pre phono looking for some pre amp also vintage that has more phono inputs or add another preamplifier.
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