So done with audiophile fuses


The journey started with a medium priced ($50) fuse in my power supply.  A failed rectifier tube blew that one out.  Not a fuse problem.  Next up was a blue fuse in my pre amp.  It blew and was not caused by a pre amp problem.  Apparently they sometimes are more sensitive and it was replaced by an orange fuse two values higher.  Things were going along fine.  I replaced the pre amp with a newer version of the pre amp and it has the same fuse value.  Five months latter (today) I turn on the pre amp and nothing.  it's a five month old pre amp so I suspected that it was the fuse.  Sure enough, I replaced it with a ceramic Littelfuse of the lower correct value it works fine.  No more wasting my money on unstable fuses for me.     
goose

Showing 20 responses by edgewound

@georghifi....Wait to see how long until your post gets deleted....3...2...1...🤣🤣🤣😉


You implied it by your "what if" scenario. It's OK...you don't mind fraud when it comes to high-end audio. Who's gonna know...😉😉?

goose
 OP
496 posts
05-09-2021 3:26pm
I may give the Hifi fuses another swing. The only reason it blew was because of a bad rectifier tube in my power supply. It also took out the original glass fuse. I will say that it seemed to be more stable than the blue or orange fuse since it was working fine at it's stated value. Just my experience, others have had better results.
Since the "audiophile fuses" "manufacturers" recommend a higher value...the fuse is supposed to be a safety feature to prevent things like a fire in case of circuit failure...why don't you try a higher value regular fuse and see if you hear any difference? 

I'd like to hear of your experience if there's any grand difference.

cd318
1,665 posts
05-10-2021 12:07pm
@edgewound,
"How many more will deleted because it fails to fit the shill narrative."



They don’t want a narrative, they want to preserve lazy astronomical profits.


What does a £50 fuse cost to make?

How is it better than a standard one?

Is there ANY electrical measument to confirm ANY superiority?

I thought not.
My comment that you took this from was also deleted...🤣🤣🤣

Hey...let's all get into the "audiophile fuse" business. When one can buy from China for 3 cents a unit in quantity, the business model starts looking pretty good...if you have zero ethics and conscience.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Bussmann-TDC180-13A-Cylindrical-Ceramic-Fuse_1600164498705.ht...
nonoise7,011 posts05-11-2021 10:02pm
I was waiting to see how much more ridiculous the conversation would get :-) It exceeded my expectations by a huge margin.....
You're completing your metamorphosis of sorts, to that of an insufferable troll. My, how the lowly have fallen.
Also these fusers claim there's a difference in inserted direction with an ac mains fuse.
And you can always count on old faithful to chime in. Same old tired shtick. You're gonna be a big hit with the nurses when your dementia kicks in.

All the best,
Nonoise



If you were actually witty, your comments would be less than sh*tty. You're way funnier when your not trying to be.


invalid
177 posts
05-14-2021 5:38pm
What you are espousing is modern day blood-letting. Not very good practice. Have we not learned anything through the sciences? Or has everything just gone back to how you feel about it?

Explain to me how my comment about an insurance company paying a claim is bloodletting? Your mind works in mysterious ways.

Using a different, higher value fuse to get better performance from an amplifier is stupid. You might burn your house down...from what we have learned through electrical engineering.

Is that understandable to you? It's not that hard to figure out if you're actually paying attention.

invalid
176 posts
05-14-2021 4:08pm
If you cause a fire in your house one day, you will not get a penny from your insurance company if they find out, which they will.


I think you are using scare tactics, an insurance company would pay. What if you just got into audio and bought a used amp with an aftermarket fuse that was of a higher rating.


There was a time in the last 200 years when people would go to the barber when they were sick, to have the bad, infected blood drained out of their body, with the thought that the person would produce more non-infected blood and would be healed. This practice was called "blood-letting". Come to find out it didn't work too well...and the person died anyway from either anemia or increased infection...sepsis... because the infection fighting white blood cells were also drained away with the red blood cells that carry oxygen to the various organs that would keep you alive.

What you are espousing is modern day blood-letting. Not very good practice. Have we not learned anything through the sciences? Or has everything just gone back to how you feel about it? Subjectivism.
cakyol604 posts05-14-2021 7:55pm" You two kids just don’t seem to get it and rely now on insults and other asinine statements just to get by with now that you’ve lost all credibility."

We are simply trying to help some delusional parties who hear voices that do not exist, by trying to bring them back to reality :-)

👍
I do believe that "other's" credibility has been lost by their own ropes they've hung themselves with by trying to cite sources that they've actually not read themselves.
What kind of disclaimer comes with the "audiophile" fuse supplier denying any subsequent damage caused by installing a fuse value that is higher than recommended by the audio component manufacturer. Will the manufacturer gladly replace the 50 cent fuse sold for $hundred$ that blew up a $100,000 Boulder amplifier? Yeah....

molingus14 posts05-18-2021 12:33am
Will the manufacturer gladly replace the 50 cent fuse sold for $hundred$
Not if they’re smart, they won’t. They should have an official policy of not recommending anything other than the manufacturer’s rated part, which is always clearly marked on the device. Even if I was selling 50 cent fuses for 75 cents, I’d have literature clearly stating that using the wrong value voids any warranty. Maybe I’d send you a coupon, two fuses for only $1.65, and better looking, I mean, better luck next time, kid.



I agree. The problem arises when the seller/"manufacturer"(actually repackaged in a fancy box with graphics) recommends going up in value to "get an improved performance/sound". Not a big deal...right?

HA!
...not to mention the fancy time-aligned cable that is terminated with a substandard conductive Rhodium plated solid brass...also an inferior conductor...clamped on to another solid connector into a passive crossover through a network of capacitors, inductors, resistors, that might soldered...or spade lug... to a solid connector on each transducer, soldered to various degrees of copper, copper clad aluminum, or aluminum voice coil windings.

Talk about electron confusion. How on earth do they know what frequency they are a part of, when Ohm’s Law states that electricity follows the path of least resistance?

Reddy Kilowatt is one smart dude.
...and a fuses job is to protect from a fire in your home or listening space. Electrical fires are the worst.
If the component develops an internal short and no fuse is present to melt and break the circuit, the short can connect to the wall outlet through the power cord.

nwres158 posts05-20-2021 2:56pmAnother observation on the unwrapped SR fuse. From the image, it looks as if they applied a graphene paste to the fuse before they wrapped it in their foil backed SR sticker. Perhaps these two additions to the stock fuse is part of their proprietary process that may have some added benefit.


A couple observations with your statement.
Graphene is an excellent conductor. A foil decal is also a conductor. It would makes sense that either and/or both of these adjuncts could bypass the fuse filament creating a higher flow of current through the entire fuse assembly, leading the the filament to fail at it's rated amperage.

If this is indeed what is happening, I doubt a whole lot of critical engineering went into this device by the "Lead Designer".