So, “Audio Science Review” really doesn’t like this video


There is a recent video by Steve Guttenberg’s friend Mark on speaker isolation devices. In the video, Mark uses informal listening observations and a microphone and software to try to distinguish differences between different isolation devices with inconclusive results. He then resorts to a blind ABX test with an interesting control related to speaker position.

I really like it for several reasons. One, it is well produced and dryly funny.  Two, it shows a promising approach to blind ABX testing.  I am also in the market for speaker isolation devices.

I posted it on this forum yesterday highlighting the ABX element and nobody commented.  I also posted it on Audio Science Review where it prompted a page plus of discussion including the forum host Amir, most of it skeptical, and then today it was pulled from the site.  The mic drop seemed to really irritate some people there. Or I don’t know, maybe it was something in one of my posts in reply - l’ll never know now.

I am curious what folks on Agon think about the subject matter, the approach and the production values of the video.

https://youtu.be/XAOD3aUfIYQ?si=pYs72o9UAl-21LH6

kn

knownothing

@curiousjim ” Kinda a letdown after the huge difference with the Gaia’s.”

That has been my experience in general with isolation products and Isoacoustics in particular.  So far speakers and turntables benefit most obviously.  I tried some Oreas under a Chord Qutest DAC which is small and whatever benefit they provided was outweighed by the attached cables, literally and sonically.  I tried some Oreas under my amp, and there might be a slight improvement.  I will say that I can listen to my system louder now with less fatigue, but have not tested how much of that is due to vibration control versus recent cable upgrades, or whether they are working together to make the improvements.  

My vintage Thorens suspended turntable is sitting on Mapleshade’s vibration control system which is a “drain and isolate” design with large brass spikes, a large maple wood block and isolation footers, and the change in sound provided by that is astonishing, improving just about everything.  And while it kind of matches the old Thorens vibe visually, my wife thinks it looks pretty stupid so for that reason and a constant quest for “better” I am considering a sleeker alternative.  For my small tube phono pre I am using an improvised micro version of the drain and isolate solution and not sure how much value that adds.

Finally, in a system at my daughter’s home I used some Isoacoustics pucks under her monitor speakers that are on her credenza along with her amp and turntable, and as can be expected they made a noticeable positive difference there.

My takeaway, things in your system that depend on vibration to create sound benefit dramatically from isolation.  For devices that only handle signals electronically, the benefits are considerably more subtle, and probably most detectable at higher listening levels.  As with everything HiFi, the more resolving your system overall, the more everything matters - it’s a never ending spiral…

kn

@knownothing 

Thanks for the validation. 

With all the different ears and beliefs out there, I sometimes question whether I hear what I think I hear. 😀

Why question what you hear? Is it a way to justify spending less? I never understood this skepticism. I think it is a fair assumption that the ARS crew develop their beliefs at the kitchen table and not in the listening room. Most seem to be looking for reason to spend less or not to spend at all.