Snake oil??


Well, on March 8th, at the age of 64, I suffered a mild stroke. I have felt that things were returning to normal for the last few weeks. Now I’m not so sure. I just reviewed an email that came to me from Agon about a mysterious substance involving something called 3-Dimensional Enhancer, the NPS 1260. It claims to cure literally all my audio problems for the low price of $599. Is this some leftover April Fools thing or am I having some sort of stroke relapse?   I’m hoping that MC has some form to sage advice for this conundrum. 
sawdustguy

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For me speaker cables, then the XLR interconnects, where the biggest improvements. But everything i coated got better and was noticeable.

This stuff according to everything I have seen is a lot of the same ingredients as TC with probably the biggest difference being the solvent or carrier base, which is more oily than TC. In terms of effect everything everyone is saying is right in line with it being a TC knockoff.  

This being the case, what you will find, it can be applied with equal improvement to the outside of internal speaker wires, speaker magnets, basket, and crossover parts. The effect is good in a lot of places but even better around higher voltage swing type areas like speakers.    

You do of course want to be extremely cautious as this is highly conductive. That is why they plaster warnings everywhere. But as long as you are extremely careful then it can be used to good effect on the outside of AC wires, around the inside of outlet boxes including conditioners, on transformers, caps, and circuit boards inside components, on and on.  

Keep in mind the stuff is expensive. Painting it on the outside of something like a speaker cable, that stuff is gone. That is why I prefer whenever possible to paint on something removable like fO.q tape. That way if you ever sell or change your mind just peel the tape off and use it somewhere else, you still have the goop. 
Video improvement with ECT is very much like what you describe between digital and film. Video with ECT looks a lot more like film.  

The best film is 70mm. The video equivalent of a direct to disc 45. I've seen Lawrence, My Fair Lady, Hamlet, and The Hateful Eight, all in glorious 70mm. Tarantino outdid himself filming The Hateful Eight in Ultra Panavision 70. 

None of these is anything like reality. Which is the whole point. Reality is vastly overrated, at least when it comes to art. We are after all immersed in reality 24/7/365. (Well, some of us, anyway;)
I recently bought a Blu Ray DVD of the original Wizard of Oz. Two days ago, prior to watching the movie for the first time, I pasted all of my connections to the video system with TC. I’m using three of those aforementioned Lowe’s power strips for the tv system. I have lots of things (unmentionables :-)) plugged into them, so it took a while to get the job done. Holy crapola, Batman! The 73" Mitsubishi rear projection TV has never looked so good. Everything from regular TV broadcasts to Technicolor movies is much improved. Too bad this product is no longer being made. Every audiophile worth his/her salt deserves this product.

Frank

What I find even more amazing, The Wizard of Oz was made back in 1939 and yet it has one of the most memorable scenes of all time, when Dorothy steps out the door from her black and white Kansas home and into the Technicolor world of Oz. The depth, saturation, and vibrancy of the colors is still to this day freaking incredible! You get used to it as the movie goes along. But that moment when she first steps into that world, wow! 

Another one that makes a nice improvement, Synergistic ECT. We watch movies off the laptop a lot and when I put just one of these on it my wife noticed immediately! Better color saturation, cleaner more natural edges, more of a 3D look overall. 


That ECI stuff is more of a true contact enhancer, nano carbon particles designed to reduce the micro-arcing that occurs when the signal jumps across microscopically small gaps in between conductors. That is part of what TC does. They are similar in using some kind of oil based carrier. With TC the carrier evaporates leaving only the nano-particles behind. ECI uses an oil designed to stay oily a long time. Probably the biggest difference however is the way TC works not only on contact points but anywhere near a signal. You could paste that stuff on the inside of a AC outlet cover plate where nothing electrical touches and it would still produce about the same effect as if it was directly on the contact points. Crazy but true.
68pete-
How much the sound stage has opened up is just unbelievable

Unbelievable to you and some others, sure. But as for me, the only thing I find hard to believe is they somehow managed to come up with something about as good as TC. But if they did then yes indeed, it would be just as you describe. 

With TC the merest tiniest thinnest application on even just a few contacts does indeed open up the sound stage with every point source being a lot more palpable, real, and natural sounding, with more air around it, a deeper background, and the ability to hear the most subtle details with great clarity. 

The really amazing part, this all comes with a greater sense of ease. Pretty much everything else that improves clarity and detail comes with a bit of an edge or grain, hardness, whatever you want to call it. TC is the opposite, improving clarity and detail while also making the sound more liquid smooth. 

If that is what you are hearing, good. One more test to find out just how good it is. TC worked not only on the points of contact but, well, pretty much everywhere there is signal flowing. The effect seems greater where the fields are strongest and most highly fluctuating. That would be around speakers and amps. Especially speakers. Paste a very thin coating around the outside of the wires going to your drivers, on the wires, caps and inductors in the crossover, on the driver terminals or even on the driver magnet and basket.  

If you are unwilling or unable to go in there and do that then do the same inside your amp. BE VERY CAREFUL because the stuff is highly conductive. But as long as you are careful not to create a short anywhere you can apply a thin coat around the outside of signal wires, caps, transformers, anywhere like that. Does not take much. Very thin coat. Goes a long way. 

The biggie if you have what it takes, I did this to my panel. This is just to give you some idea. I have pasted this stuff around the inside of my panel and the outside of my AC wires all the way from the panel to the room. What you have done, what you are hearing, times one hundred. Yeah. And people wonder why I rave about my system. 

TC was $300 for 1.5ml. How much they give you for $600? What's it say on the label?
As Mark Twain said, "What gets us into trouble isn't what we don't know. It's what we know that just isn't so."

There you go. Blathering about what you 'know' that isn't so.
Frank, Yeah and nobody else has a clue. Those of us who know, the only question here is how good a copy do they have? If it is a really good knock-off then it could be worth every penny. Only problem with that being, who of us who has tried the real thing is gonna fork over to find out? Few if any. Okay so then so if someone does try it, but they never tried TC, then how are they gonna know just how good it is? They aren't. 

The conundrum is, we know it is entirely possible to make something so good nobody can hardly even believe it. I mean even you and me who have used it all over the place, even we can hardly believe how good it is. Like you just said, fricken PC sounds good now. Crazy. But that is up against a crowd where some of these guys are so dense they still don't get that contacts cleaned with ordinary alcohol is an improvement. They don't get anything. Zip. Nada. If it ain't an amp or a speaker it's snake oil. 

Oh well. At least we got our insanely 'you are there' systems to enjoy. It all evens out in the end.
Tim Mrock developed an amazing product called Total Contact. TC as we call it was one of the greatest most high value audiophile products of all time. To call it a contact enhancer, technically okay yes it is. But TC is so much more. Can't hardly even begin to explain.

I have tried a lot of contact enhancers. Avoided trying TC mostly due to what I now know to be the BS of the snake oil crowd. There's a definite group of wanna-bee audiophiles who cannot hear, won't try things, and would rather pick apart everything they don't understand if that means trying to fire up one of the few neurons floating around somewhere in their cavernous cranium. People who actually bother to try stuff wind up like me with vastly better sounding systems for their effort. So it all evens out in the end.  

Anyway, I got some TC and tried it and as always I try something very small at first. So I took one microscopic little dab, spread it micro-thin on the spade lugs of my speaker cables, and that was it. This was a long time ago, might have done an AC plug or two as well. Whatever. Point is, not the whole system. Not even close. Just a teeny tiny dab spread super thin on a few connections.  

This tiny little dab produced an improvement in natural ease, image focus and inner detail like I never heard before. Not because it was so huge. I only did a little bit. But because of the type or character of the change. It was as if now the performer was just a little bit more a real live flesh and blood presence in the room. Yeah.

Well if that's all it did then the 1.5 ml tube is more than enough to do a huge system, any huge system, several times over. So after doing all my connections I went looking for more. One tube, if you are careful and spread it uniformly thin, will easily do an entire circuit breaker panel.

There's the problem- if you are careful! TC is highly conductive. Audiophiles it turns out are barely more careful than your average bus rider. They slather the stuff around, short things out, and of course when this happens they blame the manufacturer not their dim-witted use of the product.  

In short TC is an audiophile miracle, that many audiophiles love to hate simply because it works, and that is a PITA to sell because of all the audiophiles who can't operate anything more complicated than a remote. So if you get some, be careful with it!

I'm talking about TC because I know TC and this stuff looks like a total ripoff of TC. Only who knows maybe about twice as expensive. TC was $300 for 1.5ml. If this is $600 and it is as good as TC then it better be 3ml at least, and if so then you can do an awful lot with it.

That however is a lot of "if's".

From what I have seen, which at the risk of triggering the hyperbole police is WAAAYYYYYY more than I can divulge here, nobody nowhere no how copied or came up with anything as good as TC.

If they did though then yes, helluva deal. That however is one mighty big "IF".