I agree w/you, I have seen someone (the wording makes all the posts sound like it's the same person, though different email addresses are appended to each post) absolutely trashing the EMC-1, for reasons I can't fathom. He (I assume it is a he) hates even the appearance of this cd player! I personally love mine, including the appearance and the blue light, which were specifically singled out for hate mail by this poster. I think the player makes beautiful music and if some are being offered at discount, I say grab them while you can! I'm glad somebody else noticed this trashing phenomenon, I couldn't for the life of me figure out this guy's agenda, and still don't know. Something to do with marketing? Competing seller of other products? The language is so vituperative and excessive, I was immediately suspicious of the poster's intentions.
Weird! |
Well Said! You have covered the topic very well, I could not agree with you more.
Good Listening!
Chris |
Trelja touched on people posting under anonymous email names for whatever reason. I think only registered Audiogon members should be able to start threads and make posts. Afterall, joining is free and membership has important benefits-- at least to me. Cheers. Craig |
Trelja is very right. I have been reading your post and whatever verdict you give, the method is reasonable understandable, and fair.
So, I hereby propose Audiogon to show posters' IP address, and gate name on the post. I believe it is technically very possible.
Ken |
The same thing seems to take place in the review section of Audioreview. In those cases the agenda is usually transparent as they end up promoting the products compitition. Most of the slams here are not specific and are ignored by me. Some people just want to cause trouble.
If you stir up s#$%&, it stinks. |
Hi Trelja: I think that I know the EMC-1 poster that you are referring to. I had no comment to make other than that I did not care much for "their" favorite player (which I recently auditioned), so decided to pass. |
Concur with the opinions regarding posters slamming and "hiding out". The Audiogon equivalent of hit and run. In retrospect, I seriously doubt that most of these
ass-wipes have any experience with the equipment they disparage. Too bad, as some people might discount certain gear based strictly on the misconception that these are informed and objective opinions. I too have often wondered what planet some of these guys are coming from. |
I agree with Trelja that people should stand behind what they say about a product. But I'm not sure forcing registration would solve the problem of people smearing a product for whatever reason. Anyone can create an email address and register under whatever user name they like.
I like Khokugo's idea of listing the poster's IP Address. That's probably the best defense available. You can access IP Addresses yourself at Audio Review by pulling up "Source" under the "View" window of your browser. For some reason, it doesn't work at Audiogon. As Blkadr said, Audio Review can be bad when it comes to smearing. I've checked the IP Addresses there before and confirmed in more than one instance that a single person was posting numerous negative "reviews." |
I agree with what you folks are saying. I personally thought that the EMC-1 was an excellent sounding piece of gear. Another funny thing about that post is that while he lifted up the CAL 16 bit Alpha's and Sigma's to "Econo-Superstar" status, he badmouthed the EVS Millennium II. Since i have all three of those AND a 24 bit CAL, i can honestly say that i'm pretty familiar with what each has to offer. As such, i found the Alpha and the Millennium II to have a LOT in common ( even though one is SS and the other uses two tubes ). Like some of the others mentioned though, i didn't bother posting as i figured that the intelligent folks here could sort through the quagmire by themselves. Sean
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I don't think anyone will have the stones to disagree with you here Trejla. I'd just like to remind people that their initial reaction to a product may be positive, but after 6 months or a year we may change our minds. I just point this out for the younger members out there. I've been following this hobby for about 25 years, I know some have been here longer than me. I also have 3 sons and know that younger people have shorter fuses, or quicker tempers, if I may. I think that many of the bashes may belong to younger, intolerant members. I don't want to chase them away from this hobby, but I would like them to realize that time may change the way they feel, so they should temper their opinions. Notice I didn't say 'SHUT UP'. Our hobby is small enough and I don't want to chase off any rookies. If they were around longer, they'd know better.
Cheers
John |
Very good points and perspective Jmcgrogan2. As far as the mad poster, he hasn't been seen or heard from since his exposure. From the response in this thread, as well as those he was involved in, lots of people saw right through the whole thing. |
