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SME V vs 309 Sonic Differences

Hi all,

I've read from a few sources one or two line comments like "The SME 309 gives up surprisingly little" when compared to the SME V. I've also seen a comment "most of the difference is in the tonearm cable." But in trying to nail down the true performance difference I have done numerous searches on both google and AudiogoN and can't seem to come up with anything beyond these one-liners.

Does anyone have experience with both arms that can give some insight? I just committed to an SME 309 and am wondering what it sonically gives up. Based on what it gives up, I'm wondering if the SME V would ever make sense as an upgrade, and what upgrade path exists for the 309 itself as either general improvements or targeted changes to specifically narrow the gap with the V. Any personal experiences with any possible upgrades is also welcome.

(Also, on a side note - I've heard some say the SMEs can be dark or too analytical. Is there any truth to that?)

Thanks everyone!
Greg
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jfrech
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I wouldn't worry about any rumors on the sound of SME arms. They are right there at the top and the right cartridge can get a wonderful pairing.

Stereophile, in their review of the SME 10 table did a comparison between the 309 and the IV.Vi. That should get you close on the info you're seeking.

http://stereophile.com/turntables/376/index.html

I owned a SME 20/2 IV.Vi arm for nearly 10 years. The SME arms have the best build quality out there imo. I can attest arm cables make a big difference on the SME arms (I used a Hovland, Graham IC 50, 2 different Purist Audio Designs -Venastus and Proteus Provectus)

Arms are hard to judge, did you get the cartridge dailed in exactly like the comparsion arm? Etc. I suspect the SME V and IV.Vi are better...but you might also be better off spending more a arm cable or cartridge to...

Good luck !
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jfrech
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Hi, I would not call the IV.Vi a "stripped down" V (and the IV.Vi has the damping trough)

The only differnce between the IV.Vi and V is the internal arm cabling. IV.Vi using magnan copper ribbon vs the V's van den hul silver. Some (like me) prefer the magnan. the other differnce is the IV.Vi uses a static vs dynamic balance. Theory here being one less thing to resonate. Not sure if there is "better" here...more different I suspect.

So the IV.Vi and V are really variants on the same arm.
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