Dear Danhirsh: IMHO I think that a precise bis a bis comparison between these great TTs is something almost impossible to have because both use two different dedicated tonearms and we have to remember that the cartridge/tonearm relationship is so close that makes a unit where the quality performance level and differences resides mainly in this tonearm/cartridge relationship.
This not means that the TT is not important or that it does not add its own signature because it did.
For me to make a comparison a fair comparison could be only if both TT share the same tonearm. In this way we can really have and know the real contribution by each TT in the overall quality performance level.
Anyway, the ones with experiences on both sides as Jtinn or M.Lavigne are very good and the only " approach " about.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Unoear: Can I understand from your post that that Sirius owner was hearing not the real performance in the Sirius but only a " bad copy "?
Is hard to imagine some one that invest on that great TT and that he as the Sirius manufacturer can't took in count that wrong set-up!?!?!???, but things happen.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Unoear: Could be my ignorance about but: that T.Sheridan was the Sirius motor controller designer means for sure that he is an expert on tonearm set up or whole Sirius set up?
Btw, that inner groove mistracking was already solved in your unit?
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Dover: I can't see why you already made a " big deal " about who is Jtinn when you as almost all here in the thread knew who is him.
It will be different if you was unaware that he is a manufacturer of TTs and suddenly some one disclose Jtinn and this was a big surprise to you. This not happen so, again, why that " big deal " to you or any one that already knows Jtinn?
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Lewm: I agree with you. In the other side M.lavigne put " things " on perspective with factors and advise when what Unoear experienced happen to fix it.
The Rockport is a laboratory instrument and needs and ask for persons with the right know how to make the right set up. It is obvious that Unoear and friends that intented were inexperienced about.
of course that today Unoear already learn about and this fact is good for him because now he will enjoy his Sorius.
btw, I heard that Sirius tonearm three times and three times with out single trouble about tracking at any time and with three different cartridges.
As you Thekong is right about. Unexperienced people were the ones that failed and not the Rockport.
Other possibility could be that from the M.Lavigne place to Unoear's place somethinf was damaged on the tonearm but seems this was not happened because Unoear is enjoying it with no more " problem ".
regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Syntax: Always exist stupid and ignorant people, this " privilege " belongs to everywhere including Germany.
+++++ " my hope is that Unoear enjoys the Rockport completely. until a few days ago i was not aware of this mis-tracking.......... ..... at various times i did observe each one of those conditions.....although all of those were in the first few years of ownership....the learning curve. since that time there has been no problems with this issue. " +++++
that was what M.Lavigne posted. With those statements I understand and assume that after that " learning curve " his Sirius does not showed that problem.
you posted: +++++++" I looked at Lavignes Systems page and wrote to a few of his visors who listened to his Rockport and asked a simple question:
"Did you listen a complete Side from first to last track or only one or two?"
The answers were all the same, none of them listened to a full side, the Demo was always one or two tracks and then something different was used...
Made sense for me. " +++++
MADE SENSE TO ME : IMHO an explanation is in order because if not then that " sense to me " could means everything including that that Sirius was faulty and either ML already knew it and did not disclose it or he never was aware of that problem even that the mistracking existed.
Unoear posted: +++++ " I have had the Sirius System lll in my room. The same Sirius that JTinn is discussing. As JTinn has told me, the Sirius, as it was setup by its previous owner, was not able to successfully navigate the inner groves. " ++++++ and he add that Tim Sheridan gives his blessing on the Unoear Sirius tonearm set up.
We can assume Jtinn talked about this subject with M.Lavigne.
Then IMHO some one of them is not saying the whole " true/history ".
Dear gentlemans: whom of you can be precise/with no single doubt about and " disclose " this mixup?.
Btw, good to know that you are an expert in that Sirius 3.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Unoear: +++++ "Other possibility could be that from the M.Lavigne place to Unoear's place somethinf was damaged on the tonearm but seems this was not happened because Unoear is enjoying it with no more " problem ". " +++++
is that true or only a misunderstood from my part?
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Unoear: With all respect maybe you are unaware of this but from your last post I can see that you now belongs to the high/heavy distorted/colored and inaccurate Sound's Club, good for you!.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Jtinn: +++++ "Dear gentlemans: whom of you can be precise/with no single doubt about and " disclose " this mixup?. " ++++++
sorry to not re-read what you posted. Anyway, at least helped to confirm your post and for everyone now knows the real true about.
Those german persons almost always posts with an agenda in hand and in this thread Unoear too. Pity and a shame of.
Where belongs honesty? where some people left it? and I say this because more and more we see and read in this forum that kind of posts moved by a commercial and corrupted agenda.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Danhirsh: After your last post: When do you will buy the Rockport or the Walker?
I ask because is weird that in your Agon virtual system you don't listed not only a single cartridge but no analog rig devices. So what's all about your thread?
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Unoear: +++++ " I have happily fallen into the string-driven big Micro Seiki camp; " +++++
like you I was " there " for some years till I learned more about distortions and ditortions coming from big/weigthy TT platters MS or not with the acriklyc tweak or not and from any weigthy TT.
Obviously that you as other persons are in the learning curve about and sooner or latter you will learn too, not only from the MSs but from weigthy platters on TTs and how this " damage " the cartridge signal.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
Dear Unoear: Yes, some one prefer some kind of distortions but I'm not talking of what we prefer or what we like but about what is good or what is wrong and IMHO those weighty platters on TTs are way wrong.
I know too what better means and I'm talking of better and not only " different kind ".
As I posted sooner or latter you will learn/discern about. Our hobby is a day by day learning excercise.
Good that you are moving your face to the DD's direction, BD (any ) can't touch DD TT designs ( everything the same:good design and good execution design. ).
With BD TT all of us what we are buying is only the higgest $$$ per metal's kilos and nothing more than that. The BD designs permit to charge big dollars to the customers only because its weight and as more weight as more $$$$ for " simple " peaces of metal : nothing more.
In a DD designs there is no " floor " to charge fro that metal's peaces.
IMHO BD TT are no more than a dinosaur a pre-historic item that the AHEE refuse to " kill " once and for ever.
That's why I think that your " feel " about the Monaco is a promise one new experience.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R. |
