“On the walls of the cave only the shadows are the truth.” - Plato
Look, it takes an enormous amount of energy for an electron to ascend to a higher electron shell. That’s a basic law of atomic physics. Thus it is with folks who are either struggling away in Mid Fi Land or who have just plain given up. They rail against the notion of a higher energy shell or a brighter future for all mankind and believe the whole idea must have been fabricated by wicked money grubbing cable and tweak salesmen hoping to cash in on the tender vulnerabilities of weak and naive audiophiles. I don’t wish to paint an overly dramatic view of this predicament but I think there are glaring similarities between the angst and frivolity expressed by the tweak skeptics and the townsfolk in The Invasion of the Body Snatchers. 😩
A technology only has to be a little bit more advanced that current thought to be considered indistinguishable from magic or a hoax. - old audiophile axiom
|
folkfreak
audiogon moderators only remove posts that have been flagged by members.
Huh? What? How do you know? That would be a shame since that means members can weild a lot of power in arguments. Too much power. I trust you’re wrong.
|
🐑
gdhal
geoffkait: gdhal, I hate to judge too hastily but it appears you give yourself waaay too much credit. 🤡
OK, I have to go out for a while. Talk amongst yourselves. And behave!
Don’t forget your battery powered Walkman.
>>>>Best investment I ever made. If you heard it you’d think you were tripping.
”an ordinary man has no means of deliverance.”
|
Nope, he never said it, either.
|
mapman drives hard for the net but double dribbles. 🤡 |
Pop quiz - How do you tell when a skeptix is lying? Answer: when his lips are moving.
|
gdhal, I hate to judge too hastily but it appears you give yourself waaay too much credit. 🤡
OK, I have to go out for a while. Talk amongst yourselves. And behave!
|
willemj For the Schumann resonance: https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4352Oh, no! That’s what always seems to happen when English majors attempt to debunk audiophile tweaks. The whole thing on Schumann frequency is filled with superstition, paranoia, misconceptions and misunderstanding. Hey, that’s just the way it goes sometimes. Skeptoid.com. 😱 “Only quote facts.” |
Schumann frequency generator explained (from Acoustic Revive website)
The "Schumann Resonance" is a resonance frequency that exists in the Earth's "electromagnetic" cavity; i.e. between terrestrial surface and ionosphere. German physicist W.O.Schumann first detected the resonant properties of this terrestrial cavity in 1954. It is said that the Schumann Resonance is a breathing phenomenon of the Earth that is lasting from old time of the Earth creation and is giving a positive effect to the human brain.
Humans, animals and plants have become accustomed to this frequency of 7.83Hz over a very long period of evolution.
But recently, many unnatural radio waves and electromagnetic waves disturb this frequency of 7.83Hz, it has changed the influence that it has on us.
Our research was started from the point of view that [If Schumann Resonance Waves have a positive effect on the human brain, how does it react to human hearing?], it became clear that there was a surprising effect to both of hearing and sight.
Then, we developed and manufactured a device to generate the 7.83Hz electric wave artificially, the Ultra-low Frequency generator RR-888 (Patent Pending)
Picture quality improves as well by the RR-888
A focus of the picture is improved!
The RR-888 brings a great ability of a projector, such as CRT Projectors, DLP Projectors, Liquid projectors. By using RR-888, the focus of the picture is much improved.
|
Good question. No, he didn’t. Thanks for asking. It appears that’s another Old Wives Tale promulgated by Scaredy Cat Skeptics. 🙀
|
mapman
To say that there is no ’snake oil’ is the same as saying every claim every vendor or fanboy makes to support their particular product is true.
Any takers on that?
>>>>You guys can’t prove the claims false. How ‘bout them apples? 🍎 🍎 You can’t even provide evidence they’re false. Get Real! I already challenged you guys to demonstrate that ANY of the well known snake oil tweaks are hoaxes. You can’t. It’s just a lot of talk. Apparently all can come up with is a statement that’s supposed to be some sort of Final Skeptics Statement that actually doesn’t even make sense. “To say that there is no ‘snake oil’ is the same as saying every claim every vendor or fanboy makes to support their particular product is true.” Ha ha! That’s priceless! What does it even mean, Moops?! 😛
mapman
Of course the snake oil salesmen absolutely have no problem making baseless sometimes even absolute claims and will do what they can to discredit any naysayer or skeptic. Watch out!
>>>>You guys can’t prove the claims are baseless so let’s just assume they’re true. Absolute claims? Whoa! What? Is that from the New Skeptics Dictionary? Funny! Besides nobody is bound to prove any claims. You can claim anything you want. Your assertion is just an Old Wives Tale that’s been promulgated by scaredy cats. 🙀 Don’t worry so much. We’re only discrediting your arguments. We don’t need to stoop to personal attacks.
”People would be much better off, generally speaking, if the believed in too much rather than too little.” - P. T. Barnum
|
amg56
What TELOS Quantum Diffuser is doing is actually very simple.....Geoff, I do not read video in the above. Maybe you can? I trust the credentials of my source implicitly. Plus I can read.
>>>> Acoustic Revive is the original. Acoustic Revive claims it improves video. Besides manufacturers have to claim something, no? Give them a break. Everybody and his brother makes these Schumann things these days. Nobody seems to know how they work, I’ll grant you that. You’re under no obligation to believe them or buy the product the last time I looked. By the way I see no reference in that description to the electromagnetic wave nullifying acoustic feedback you originally objected to. Did it just disappear?
What you wrote,
”....if you compute the wavelength vs path length, you come up with around 8Hz which is what this box claimed to emit electromagnetic waves to nullify acoustic feedback! This magic box, of not inconsiderable expense, couldn’t acoustically nullify itself if it tried.”
Pop Quiz: How long would a full wave antenna have to be to produce an 8 Hz electromagnetic wave?
|
amg56
Being newish to HiFi I research every claim that I am interested in. The latest was about the quantum diffusor. The claim on this one is one of the funniest examples of "snake oil" you will find. A knowledgeable and trustworthy gent explained to me that the Schumann resonance is simply the natural resonance frequency of electromagnetic waves which circle the earth-- if you compute the wavelength vs path length, you come up with around 8Hz which is what this box claimed to emit electromagnetic waves to nullify acoustic feedback! This magic box, of not inconsiderable expense, couldn’t acoustically nullify itself if it tried.
Actually, no such claim is made for the box. They do, however, claim the device improves video as well as audio. And the last time I looked video is not an acoustic medium. Have you considered checking the credentials of that knowledgeable and trustworthy gent? Oh, dear, this is all so confusing!
|
Good one, Moops! How long did it take to come up with that one?!
|
Looks like another Whack a Mole enterprise under way. Full steam ahead! 🥊
|
As far as I know there has never been an iconic audiophile tweak, whether inexpensive or Uber expensive, you know, icons like Silver Rainbow Foil, Green Pen, aftermarket fuses, fancy cable lifters, Mpingo disc, crystals, Shakti Stone, Walker Talisman demagnetizer, Tourmaline Gun ionizer, proven by anyone to be a hoax. Just a lot of who shot John. Or idle threats of “bet it can’t pass a blind test.” You can argue until the cows come home 🐄 or until you’re blue in the face 😨 as to their effectiveness or cost benefit as that would obviously vary.
|
