Siemens Halske versus Siemens Rohre

I have obtained a quad of cca's through the a'gon want ads, but other offers keep coming in including one for a pair of ANOS cca RCA label for $150 a pair. If interested - email me and I will refer you to the person selling. Joe

I agree with Tvad. That price was outrageous for a pair. A nice quad for that price would have been more acceptable.

04-10-07: Tvad my mistake, I have E88CC Tubes not ECC88.
Late night posting with one eye open I guess.

Tube miser - Thanks for the tip.

No Joe. I don't need any CCa for now. I have a back-up pair and am good to go for a few years. Good luck and I hope you win a good set of CCa to enjoy the music for many years to come.

Sherod
Are you one of the snipers this week:-) Hate to bid against a friend!

If you happen to choose Ebay to shop for tubes, there are alot of fakes out there so make sure you do your homework. There is a dealer name bugleman that sells alot of counterfeits, look up bugleman on the audioasylum, there is quite a bit of write up on him. Yes, I did get burn by him years ago buying a pair of CCa's. But, it was my fault for not researching before I bought.

Good luck!

If you have your mind set to go for some rare Siemens CCa tubes on Ebay, bid your max because there will be last second snipers lurking nearby.

Nice link Tvad. I have 4 pairs of the early gray riser Siemens( some call them gray plates) and all have the codes on the glass but one.
But they are ECC88 not CCa, although CCa are said to be the pick of the litter from ECC88.

Semens & Halske E88CC

Characteristics:

- double stage getter

- AØX ≠XX code on getter support

Comment:

Quite rare.

That is the info from the website. I think a bit of an oversight as most I have seen that have the codes on the getter support are the silver riser.

I have 8 tubes with the AØX ≠XX code. 7 being gray riser with code on glass and 1 gray riser with code on getter support.

Go figure!

I also found the ECC88 gray riser to be better then the later CCa silver riser. YMMV

This is my favourite tube from the 6JD8, 6922, 7308 family.

Gammajo, No I don't think it was the same seller, but description, picture , characteristics are same same as when I bought mine just few weeks/months ago. Note that I said " similar". I should add that I should be "liking" the 50's tubes, but for may taste I much prefer the early 60's CCa's. You did not ask for this, but I might as well say it and add to more confusion ;-)

Thank you all for your comments. Nilthepill, you you mean that you bought your cca's from the same seller referenced above?
Joe

I have bought similar (as the ebay link above) tubes off ebay upon a tube expert's ( that I highly trust) suggestion and it turned out to be the best tubes(Early sixties Siemens CCa) I have tried so far on my DAC. Thus leaving up to its reputation as one of the best tubes. Since then I also have bought a pair of 50's grey d getter Siemens CCA and performance is consistent with the reviews. Leads me to think that these are genuine tubes. Just another vote of confidence.

Thanks for the input. For example this current add on ebay, the fellow says that there are no date codes etched on glass or frame and they have 07347 made in Germany printed on the back. He feels that they are early sixties. Any opinion as to genuine early 60's
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3APIC&viewitem=&item=13009844

Hey Tvad,

The "Tube Classics" site went to my favorites list, thanks !

Well, they are all gold pins, some with codes on the support, all with 4 seams on bottle, one in blue/yellow Siemens & Halske box (very clean printing), 5 others in white boxes. Unfortunately, I do not have any gear right now that uses the E88CC/6922 tube.

Grant- how can you tell they are genuine? so far I can tell that dull grey getter supports are older than shiny, but what else. is there anything to the story I heard that no genuine CCas were made with gold pins? I have a quad of gold pin, dull gray tubes stamped Siemens CCa. Of course I also have a pair of 308s in a well known tube dealers box that are inked Siemens 7308, but the dull top of tube marking says 7308 made in USA.

Imin2u,
Just what are the "right" ones?

I agree, Joe. You need to be careful and selective. You need to have assurance that you are getting a geniune Siemens CCa tube when they are commanding such high prices.

Iv have the right ones by luck!

Thanks for the input. I have read the cca threads, I have a PHD but this stuff taxes the brain! Added to that is when I call some reputable dealers they say they have not seen a genuine early cca tube in years and that most everything out there is a fake. It make it a bit hard to be confident. At $50 who cares, at $500 I do!

Joe: Not sure that I made myself clear on my earlier reply. If the box says Siemens Halske Rohre, it's not another brand. The word Rohre means tube. It could be a Mullard Rohre (Tube) or Amperex Rohre (Tube). Good luck in your pursuit of the right tubes.

Joe,

Here's some more threads to help you understand the various Siemens CCa:

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/search.mpl?forum=tubes&searchtext=siemens+cca

Joe,

Here's an Ebay ad that looks like the tubes you want:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-NOS-Tubes-Siemens-Halske-CCa-6922-E188CC-E88CC_W0QQitemZ110111680990QQihZ001QQcategoryZ67816QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Joe,

Here's a link to a lot of information regarding Siemens tubes:

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/search.mpl?forum=tubes&searchtext=siemens+rohre

Gammajo, the word Rohre is German and it means vacuum tube or just plain tube.