Should we care if a piece of equipment comes from a pet-free, kid-free, smoke-free home?

When a cat (especially a former feral one) chooses you and attaches herself to you, that is pure love...

When i was 18 years old, i had a cat, very savage non tamed one who only sleep in my bed and lives outside... He once attacked viciously my uncle sleeping and trying to approach him... I was sad for the bloody hands of my uncle but proud of my savage cat...😊

He accepted only me and came time to time in my room for sleep and eating...

He died going back in my room in a winter night waiting for me in the morning before sunrise. He died by a 35 celsius below zero in a car motor of my neighbour and badly hurted and as a block of ice when i discovered him weeks later under the snow...

I like cat...

But my last cat was 30 years ago...

i always also had dogs and with the children and two dogs i never owned another cat... I fear that if he was free he will be hurted and it is not fun nor easy to keep a cat in jail...

Dogs are more easy to tame and dogs are more willing to be tamed...

Takes a mate with me to the health of all mighty cats... 😊

I can replace my gear pieces not my two dogs...😊

The left-right division in society is only a tool for nevrotic sheep control as believed and demonstrated Mandeville ......

"A political party is a machine for creating collective passion.A political party is an organization constructed in such a way as to exert collective pressure on the thinking of each human being who is a member.

The first and, in the final analysis, the only end of any political party is its own growth, and this without any limit." Then political parties must be dissolved thought Simone Weil one of the greatest french thinker.

Marx is not Stalin this is a commom place fact... How did this common place fact can contradict the facts i described about Mandeville genius creating the "market" modern idea by justifying it as the only cure for scarcity ?

Marx and Adam Smith were not the genius, Mandeville was.Modern capitalism was thought by Mandeville not by Adam Smith nor Marx. Hayek pope of the neo-liberalism with 8 Nobel in economy call Mandeville his master . Do you understand my historical point ?

We live in a matrix of conditioning of the mind were most people are asleep...

corporate oligarchy govern how ?

Exactly as Mandeville described it the first in history... Phantasm control of the masses by creating watchword as left-right and other secondary unimportant flags.

As Simone Weil thought political parties are a monstruous game played by people who had loose their free mind.

Materialism created the actual techno-cult religion where the leftist people confuse their own sexual biological identity with their phantasm, why ?

Anybody think that it is just a random idea appeared by chance ?

Left-right political identification is a circus to distract people too lazy to think by themselves...

i will stop here... I am way out of the thread matter ... but i wanted to correct a propagandist post or a bad joke with history...

You must study the real first social conditioning manual way before Marx who derive all his analysis of social classes from the "market" ideas and values and prices created by Mandeville whom Adam Smith plagiarized completely. Replacing the "vices" after the Fall and predestination background of Calvinist Mandeville by the more innocuous and more presentable idea of selffishness.

Then Marx completely is derivable by the ideas from the " Doctor of the soul" Mandeville whose description of classes fit more today that at the times because they appear more evident than in 1714. Marx is intelligent but not a genius, Mandeville was way too advanced to be completely understood. Even Freud appear less a genius compared to him. ( By the way he was a psy a doctor of the soul and he cured people by listening them speak exactly as Freud will do, but he was not sexually obsessed as Freud , he was interested more by the social phantasms desires of most men like Adler )

The goal of Mandeville before Malthusian politic in the scarcity state of the industrialisation beginings and the first decade of Democracy in England was double : creating abundance with the liberalization and organization of the private "vices" for the benefit of the public "virtue", and also without the tyrannical power replaced by democracy, creating social means of control, the manual for any future economist and politician.

He described if we use modern concept three classes :

The criminal psychopaths , a few , who rules because they had understood how to manipulated with words programming the crowd essentially nevrotic people who dream about recognition , virtue representation , honors, medals, titles, and any created and propagated phantasms.

Under these two clases there is the marginal sociopaths who dont belive in the "public honors and virtues" and who act not for power and control but only for pleasures and the vices they prefered over all .

Now think about the Man who describe the best our societies , Mandeville or Marx?

Why do you think Hayek called Mandeville our Master ?

https://www.maggs.com/dr-bernard-mandeville-lecture-on-a-master-mind_231842.htm

There was a censorship and an underestimation of Mandeville, who was forbid and put on the stake all over Europe... he was presented as a fable creator as Lafontaine and Aesop not and never as a thinker ... He was call the " man of the devil" Man devil , ... Why ?

Adam Smith , Marx and even Freud , he anticipated them all in 1714 creating the concept of the unconscious with the concept of social classes as in Reich and Marcuse . Some genius are way too deep and in advance to be understood in their life time ..

" No man is here (in society) where he think he is " Bernard Mandeville 🧐

@mahgister Like a couple of others, I enjoy your comments and I agree with most of your points about authoritarianism, and fascist and communist political movements. However, I think you misunderstand Karl Marx thoroughly. Your description of communism applies to the likes of Lenin, Trotsky, and Mao who appropriated the language of Marx to legitimize their authoritarian impulses and objectives,

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Why not speaking to me in my face instead of  insinuating in my back?

By the way are you saying that my explanation of commom roots for fascim and communism in materialist techno-cultism dont say much at all ?

You knew already where this "market" idea was born and why ?

You already linked it to the idea of Calvinism ?

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Have you read and understood Bernard Mandeville before i mentionned it here?

Have you already coupled it with rené Girard ?

No.... Then shut up trolling people in their back and claiming in an hypocrital way that i said nothing ...

thanks...

Lots of words though.

The words never cease. And they never really say much at all.

Some seem to have had their sense of humor surgically removed. Lots of words though.

Suppose our humor center had been chirurgically removed but our brain works anyway....😊

And suppose a social context in ebullition which makes an opposition possible between 2 groups and suppose the alleged " joke" can go in 2 direction:

A) " i dont want gear coming from fascist home"

or

B) "i dont want gear coming from communist home"...

now because your brain work and not removed the "joke" choice A or B express more a political choice aiming at a group, a watchword, than a joke...What René Girard explained well as a designed victim scapegoating group CHOSEN .

Like the joke Goebbels was doing against communists in germany or the joke of Stalin against Nazis...

They can express humor only in a political context where others are of the same political ilk ...out of this context they are watchword or fuel throwed on a fire ...

Now the good news is that the doctor had replaced my humor sense today... You were right it has been removed ... 😁

I dont think this is a good joke in the time being ... It was a joke yes but a bad one...

My humor sense being chirurgically had been replaced now i concur with you : it was just a joke...You are right!...

A very bad one though sorry...

In the meantime search about the unknown Mandeville, a true genius creator of the social-economic modern manual ...You will learn something about communism and fascism techno-cults common roots and their continuation today in propaganda by big corporations ...😊

My humor center is replaced but it is a bad news dont work well continuously ... 😁 it is why there is too much words...

But René Girard and Mandeville are real geniuses we must read together...Thank me later if your working brain has not been removed ... 😉

Take note that i dont support anyone...

Hate beget hate...

i recommend to everybody as urgent reading : René Girard "things hidden from the beginning of the world"

I despise any watchword from any parties, fascists communist pro or against...

My job is understanding...

Thanks anyway for appreciation of my historical point...

The true origin of left/right, capitalism-communism parties in the beginning of democracy and industrialisation after Mandeville creation of the market idea and of the social classes idea and of the unconscious, is materialism coupled in the social fabric with corporate techno cultism . It is very easy to spot it in the british empire. This techno cultism linked with corporate powers dominate today over all pawns of the two parties under any names. this techno cultism coupled with A.I. spell doom for freedom.. I cannot elaborate it will be out of place and too long...

Behind all wars there is greed and power but  add to that the techno cultism control which will be the next humanity division between organic human and modified human ...

Thanks for your kind words ...

@mahgister I have to praise you for your posts responding to fascist free household requirement.
You nailed it. The communists/socialists/anarchists/facsists etc. of the world who disregard history drive their idiotic narrative here and fuel the division. We’re hanging by a thread already. And yet they just can’t resist.
I’m surprised he didn’t post any additional videos of the Ivy League school protests supporting terrorists. I guess they don’t have a song yet. What a f-n mess…

I sold all my gear as coming from a  "free  from audiophile vermin" home ..

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Jokes are not watchword in an already political hot context.

we smile at jokes, we rally behind watchword...

Do you sense the difference?

Or perhaps some use a watchword making a very bad joke , it can be the case here or you can rewrote this watchword as a joke... ...

But anyway my historical instructive post about fascism and communism common origin in  social techno cultism materialism with Mandeville will teach you something you did not know... Then thank me for the information which is very deep and important... I am only half joking here... 😊 I dont wait for your thanks... 😊

No kidding! Good humored sarcasm, irony and facetiousness are totally lost on a lot of guys here

That’s a fact.

Thanks ...

The one who wrote "fascism free room " used exactly this expression here to stir a political debate or bait someone... I defeated his ignorant or twisted tactic by historical explanation... That was my goal... Anyway very few know about Bernard Mandeville deep genius in economics, psychological, and sociological science ... I always try to inform if i can ... 😊

Historical facts are interesting , political watchwords are useless.

@mahgister

I enjoy your deep dives into a variety of subjects. Admittedly, sometimes I have to scan over your comments due to time constraints.

As mentioned before, I am involved with several "unite", "detoxify" and "depolarize" groups (including my own), and those tidbits you insert now and then are helpful. And, yes, single-worded and/or truncated remarks designed to ambush "the other side" are great conversation killers. Which is the objective for those who use their high IQs to win debates rather than leveraging the asset to seek the truth

Good point! And important one...

We must ban fetichist if we buy remote control...

This is not political propaganda but hygienic and health recommendation ...

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Dog dead flies  bodies inside amplifier kill more person than thunderstorm in antartica each year by the way ...

Yogiboy thanks for your kind reply...And humor...

But someone in a non political thread throw a political watchword : he does not want to buy from fascism home...

I add i dont want to buy from communist home either...

And then i want to explain for those who are able to think where does these political propaganda and watchwords came from IN HISTORY ...

It is not informative to know where capitalism amd Marxist come from ?

This will makes us able to stay away from political ideologue...

I dont like watchwords from any side in this actual civil unrest in America...

Then i appeal to the brain of people in my post , the other poster may appeal to crowd reaction... I do not act like that sorry...

I apologise if thinking may be disturbing but it is necessary to correct those who throw easy watchword....... 😊

Making people think WITH HISTORY is better than stirring the toxic and intoxicated left/right pot ...

Then my posts about music and about also acoustics and about audiophilia system creation are sometimes "philosophical" but i dont speak to crowd i spoke for those able to think ... Acoustic, music , and audio system creation are anyway philosophical journey too it is about understanding not just purchase and blind consumerism ...

For example i just gave many articles adresses describing an acoustic scientific revolution in the understanding of hearing and music right now  in some thread... This is positive no ?

Better than a post appeal to ban fascism ... Why not communism too ? and why not understanding the link between these two monsters ?

We must understand what is a sound to appreciate our hobby ...It is impossible without philosophy of science...

@mahgister You sound like a nice guy but why do you always have to get philosophical with all your posts?

I know people sleep when some others throw  propaganda watchwords..

I prefer to think sorry skip my post... 😊

I will exclude not only fascist house owner as some did but communist house owner...

Why ?

Because fascism is born from an economical techno pseudo science where corporate powers collude with politic nationalism as in Italy or with religion as in Spain or as with racist biological science as in Germany...

Communism is born from techno cultist economical theory of class warfare born from ignorance by Marx.

All these techno cults based on biology or economy come from before Marx and before Adam Smith from the genius of calvinist Bernard Mandeville trying to solve the scarcity problem and the social control problem after the demise of oligarchic tyranny in England and the birth of democracy in England.

Mandeville thought about deep methods inspired by his calvinist predestination ideology to make the social Hive creative in spite of the sins and with the help of the sins and created before Adam Smith the market concept , Smith plagiarise, and truncate his thoughts , and stole from him the concept of market; and more than that  Mandeville genius created before Freud the concept of the unconscious in 1714. Mandeville called by all Europe the "man of the devil" said " Men are not where they thought they are ". he created the concept of social classes before marx and deeper than him : the pervert psychopath at the head, the nevrotic narcissists,  in the middle and in the margin the self centered sociopath, for sure he does not use these modern words but it is the same .   It is Mandeville who said : " the private vices create the collective virtue"... This truth being too unconvenient to be said as that ,  from Smith to Hayek they pudically rename  the vices a "self interest" in the austrian school of economy  ...😁

He literally wote the social control user manual to govern people without them being conscious of it .This is the reason why Hayek whose economic school win 8 Nobel prizes called him "our master to us all"...Think about that...😊

Then if you do not want to stay ignorant ban fascism yes but as well as communism and dont listen and dont trust any person who ban only one of these two monsters...They had a common root...

Have you not observed that techno cultism is the next religion not fascism alone or communism alone but something much worse ? materialism gave birth to techno-cultism which is the father of transhumanism religion ...

Many idiotic people stir the pot with left/right propaganda... Be over it and think by ourselves...

As you can see my post is philosophical not as some just did about ideological watchword ...

inform yourself before repeating watchwords of any left or right propagandist...

As said Chesterton : "the modern world is full of chritian ideas gone mad"

Calvinist predestination from which modern economy is born, unbeknowst to most economist save Hayek and few others, is such an idea gone mad. Add materialism and you had techno-cultism ideology of the fascist kind or of the communist kind , pick your flavor. ...

Cigar odor do  never vent out at all from books or from anything ...

All people like midgets who lives with trolls and fairies then mention them ... ☺😊

I almost sold nothing of all the pieces i bought, save two pieces.

I had kids and pets...

And anyway i modified all my gear pieces, even headphones,  save the speakers Tannoy i sold and the tube amps...😊

i cannot sell anything of the system i used... My 2 akg headphones are modified , the speakers also...

I can sell the two dacs  and the two chinese amplifiers, there is no internal modifications...

I never sold my books or cd...

I gave them or put then in trash...

 I dont like the trouble it takes to sell ...

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I am not rich but i dont need money...