Should Speaker Manufactures provide a Frequency Response Graph?


Eric at Tekton Designs has been battling two different reviewers who have posted measurements without his permission, using Klippel devices for their respective measurements.

It seems to me that if manufactures provide a simple smoothed out graph, consumers can see how much a speaker is editorializing with a frequency response that deviates from neutral.  

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Showing 2 responses by james633

The full measurements that the kipples spit out are super valuable. At $100k-ish they don’t cost much for a business to own. It is a way for smaller (compared to Harman, Kef, etc) companies to do measurements and make better speakers. It is much cheaper than anechoic chambers which can be upwards of a million dollars. When companies want to sell speakers for $30k+ I expect them to invents money and time into design equipment. 

Iaoman,

 

“In what way? Do these measurements tell me I will like what I hear?”


Yes, they do tell you what you hear and estimate in room too. Each room is a bit different though so there is some variance which is mostly 200hz (not to mention some of us have HF hearing loss) and below. once you hear a few speakers that have full measurements and decide which ones you like better it is pretty easy to look at other measurements and know which ones you will like better and seek a demo based on those measurements. You can even look at the dispersion and understand what the soundstage is going to do.

I don’t read or post on ASR either, as I don’t like the absolutist attitude and whiny commentary on their but there are a bunch of knowledgeable people there just as there are here (many of the same people…)

Lack of measurement understanding does not make measurements untrue. Some things are very subtle in the measurements and it takes time to understand them.

 

Some things are still lacking in the measurements, I feel transients and detail is still missing but measure and use the data you have and demo for the other things.

I have owned two speakers that have both had full spins. The Revel 228be and the JBL 4367s. I did same room/system direct A/B comparisons. Listening to them back to back and looking at the measurements is almost 1:1 how they actually sounded in my room.

I bought the revel after demoing and bought the JBL 100% blind based on the measurement…. I kept the JBLs and sold the Revels after direct A/B in my room.

 

As engineer for 20+ years I can assure you 99% of the high tech things you use (or even keep you alive, I work in the biopharmaceutical industy) were build or designed using models.