I looked at the Ktemas and they were very impressive, however you can't biamp them, huge disappointment
May do just fine without that ability but I'm in a biamp phase.
Several used sonos faber il cremonese for sale. why?
I've noticed lately that many used il cremones speakers by sonus faber are for sale lately. And the price after being only 2 to 3 years old goes from a list of 55,000 all the way down to 25 to 30,000. And they seem to be on sale for quite a while, and from dealers too. I thought these were very nice speakers and don't understand why they're at such a discount and why many seem to be on sale these days. I know the Amati g5 Sonos is supposed to be very good. People aren't selling to buy the lower level g5 speaker.
I also know, and as openly acknowledged by sonos, the speakers are a lot more expensive because of all the design work to make them pretty. With these low used prices why would anyone pay 55,000 even if it's discounted by 10% or so? I know it's an older design speaker that hasn't been updated for a while but that may not be a problem.
Any thoughts about this as I was kind of interested in il cremonese. What's a good alternative speaker?
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I’m not sure about the extremes they seem a bit too exotic and kind of rare since I didn’t make many and maybe for good reason. They seem much better value around 30,000 and overpriced at 55. The G5 are supposed to be pretty darn good but I want more filling musical presence inside a room G5 are probably overpriced too |
Is that a good thing?
It just seems like there’s several used speakers available where the used prices are consistently between 25 and $30,000. That’s not good. Especially when I hear they are one to three years old. No one really knows I guess.. the list price of 55,000 may simply be too high. It just makes me wonder how overpriced these so-called higher end speakers may actually be. |
I really like how your room has been set up. I bet those subwoofers and the bookshelves are really nice. I've always wondered about bookshelves but seem to have always been involved with floorstanding. I like the idea of effectively suspending them with lots of space underneath which probably is good for sound transfer. My room size is 22 x 15 but I do have a subwoofer along with the mains. I also have another listening room which is smaller and at times can be more comfortable but don't spend much time there
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I had the same concern about the imaging and level of detail being expressed throughout the room. A softened image may not be good at times and was interesting to hear the rel subwoofers helped, I thought the point was not to need subwoofers for these speakers. Dealers offering them for $28,000 used that means a credit of probably 20,000 against any new purchase. Certainly while I prefer buying new a substantial discount off the 55,000 List is necessary. And I’m talking about a sell price of 35 to 40,000 new. I'm now looking at TAD speakers.
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