Setup vs. Amp/Preamp choice?


Which do you value more?

I've read endless questions re: which amp, preamp,or integrated is best with which speakers. I believe most of that discussion is nonsense for most equipment. True, there are certain electrical synergies between amps and speakers that are important, and preamps certainly sound different. But the absolutely critical factors in determining what a system will sound like are: 1. your own likes and dislikes and 2. setup. I have heard great gear sound terrible and average gear sound fantastic - it really depends on how things were set up in a particular listening room. I've heard people describe a particular integrated amp as having as small soundstage - In my room and with my speakers, the soundstage was vast. I've heard people describe the sound of certain gear as shrill or unlistenable - Well perhaps it is in their setup, but what does that tell me about how it will sound in my room?

Many of you who ask for advice about gear place inordinate value on subjective opinions of individuals with varying tastes, hearing ability, prejudices, rooms and setups. That is completely absurd: The only way to judge how a piece of equipment will sound is to test it in your room after proper setup. And small changes in speaker placement can make a huge difference. So stop running around like a bunch of maniacs who have to switch equipment every few months in search of nirvana, and concentrate on setting up your system properly. That's where the greatest reward is (for everyone except dealers).

Do you agree?
msratty

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Msratty, as most here can not grasp most others rooms/ setup (though the efforts most certainly exist) never mind others taste, what do you suggest we discuss here? Your point is a given here. You've got a lot of nerve taking that tone with us.

Do you agree?
Onhwy61, putting the tone aside for the moment, how about "absurd" and "running around like maniacs"?
Msratty, I think your stating the obvious. Based upon the years I've been visiting Audiogon, I'm confident that despite the experience you might have had with your friend, the vast majority of Audiogoners are well aware of the importance of room considerations and system setup and the topic and been broached here many times for and by newbies and experienced audiophiles.
That you think that we don't is presumptious. Your posted atttitude about component matching is akin to going on a oenophile site and advising the members that, pouring most wines in most glasses will give them a buzz.
FWIW, most of my gear is over twenty years old, my system hasn't and typicaly doesn't change for years at a time. I frequent Audiogon to avail myself to other possibilities and I try to offer advise based upon my experience with some gear and systems, without presuming that everyone else here doesn't have a clue. I believe that for most, this forum is an aid towards the quest for the best sound one can achieve. For many this journey has many obstacles, including room, immediately available funds, etc., and yes, component matching. Like other hobbyist, some also like to compare items peculuar to the hobby, just for the "fun" of it. While I don't engage in that all that often, I can appreciate that none the less.
I suppose you could have opened this thread as a friendly reminder, but instead it reads (at least by me) as a contemptious diatribe.
Msratty, first you insult us, then your tell us to relax. You've got a lot of nerve.