Seeking more 3d imaging, deeper/wider soundstage


I'm considering replacing either my amp or my pre. My system is profiled in my system link. Which do you think would improve soundstage/imaging more:
Replace the P3? I'd consider used McCormack, or a passive line stage, but my amp clips at 5v, which is what my DAC puts out when using the XLR outputs, and I'd like to try those someday...not sure a passive is a good fit for my system? Plus I require a remote. That's a deal breaker.
Replace the Rotel RB-1080? I'd consider parasound (a21 is a bit too pricey for me), used McCormack, odyssey, maybe even older krell or classe. I want XLR inputs tho.
Budget is $900-$1200 for either. Music spans the full gamut, excluding hip hop and country. Room is small, 12x12x8. I'm going to throw up some affordable foam acoustic absorption this summer (foam factory). Thnx in advance.
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Tboooe - I'm in NY. I didn't put anything on the ceiling as I thought it would deaden the room way too much. Right now, I have the non - fatiguing sound I want, with just a bit of liveliness. Also, toeing in my speakers essentially eliminated certain ceiling reflections. As for a rug, I have wall to wall carpeting, so the floor is taken care of.
Before you go out and spend $$ on replacing equipment, give some consideration to room treatment. I was going to replace my beloved B&W N804s because they were sounding harsh in my new, but small listening room. It was extremely frustrating since they sounded great in my old, larger room. As a last ditch effort, I figured it coukd be the room itself. So, I called GIK Acoustics and sent them pictures of my room. As it turns out, room reflections were the source of the problem. For a little over $1K, I was able to get great sound and not spend a sh*tload of $$ on new equipment. Treating your room is AS important as the components you use. Trust me on this one.
The problem for me with the Vicoustics product is that foam does not work very well for bass trapping. It looks great, but great "sound" is more important to me. After much research based on price, quality, and effectiveness, I determined that GIK was best for my needs. I am very happy with my choice and recommend GIK highly. I, too, thought that it was difficult to get room treatment "right," particularly in a room with crappy dimensions of 10x10x8. It CAN be done with proper guidance. I have no affiliation with GIK, I am just a very satisfied customer, and am grateful that I did not have to spend mega bucks to achieve the wonderful sound I have currently. That being said, room treatment is not a panacea, and it may wind up that new equipment is in your future ... as someone who had a Rotel amp briefly, I can tell you that I found it grainy and unmusical. That's why I had it briefly. However, I think that room treatment is essential regardless of equipment ... Even the best, most expensive equipment, can sound like crap in a poorly treated or untreated room. Just go to a major audio show held in a bunch of hotel rooms and hear for yourself.
Tboooe - I have 4 tri-traps (2 on each front corner stacked floor to ceiling), 2 244s (one behind each speaker), 1 Monster Bass Trap directly behind my listening chair, and 4 spot panels (2 on each wall) to hit first reflection points. Having a crappy, square room with an alcove right behind the listening position sucked big time ... but the GIK products have fixed that essentially, and I am quite pleased with the sound.
Tboooe - I screwed up the numbers ... it is actually 12x12x8, including the alcove. Still haven't had my first cup of coffee this morning; in any event, it's a square box.