Schiit Yggdrasil DAC, why did they change it ?


Back in 2017 Schiit Audio introduced a DAC they called a Yggdrasil. It was well received to say the least and The Absolute Sound said after a break in period it sounded as good as any DAC. Some time ago they changed it and right now there are 3 versions available on their website. They are Less is More, More is Better, and GS2 (Garage Sale 2). The prices are $2299, $2699, $1699 respectively after the recent price increase. The difference is the first 2 use gen 2 cards and GS2 uses gen1 cards. Each DAC has 4 of these cards and the gen 1 cards cost a lot more ( Schiit says Uber expensive ). The GS2 uses cards they got when people upgraded to the new DACs and they kept the gen 1 cards. Mike Moffat said in an interview he did not want to have a product that cost more than $2500. I think the original just became too expensive to build and that’s why they went with much cheaper TI cards. They claim the new DACs sound better after they did complicated math and engineering. I think the original sounded better and the GS2 is at least as good as the new ones. I’ve seen "want to buy" ads for the original. Having said all of the above I want to say I’m a big fan of Schiit Audio and use their Freya+ preamp and the GS2 DAC. The rest of my system is a PSAudio S300 Amp and Herbeth 30.2 XD speakers.

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As I recall -

Prior, during Covid, and coming out of the pandemic I recall the same as others about parts availability issues, boards, along with some price hiking going on with processors - they were not too happy about. That’s how I ended up with a different Schiit DAC to try, wanted to try another unit with the new TI processors just to check it out. Resold it in six months. Was clean, detailed, yet lacked some of the lushness for me. During all of this, Jason made a video of what he used on his desk at the time, and he had also commented about them making the new DACs a little smaller for better fitment for the mass market. Seems like they were hyped up at the time about the new stuff [because maybe that’s what they could offer at the time] but as I recall some diehard customers kept bringing up Yggy and older versions too. As i’ve learned with my current DAC, keep it if you really like it.

I still have one of the brand new [still in wrapper] remote controls from one of those Schiit DACs that I should probably go list for someone who needs it or wants a backup. 

@moonwatcher while I had the new BF 2/64 for less than a year, I did not own the Yggy prior. Liked Yggy, just wanted a smaller footprint dac to try that was close enough to try, maybe. I still gather Yggy in some versions is its own gem of course. Not discounting that.  One reason I tried it is - owner of Schiit Jason S moved from an Yggy to the BF 2/64 for his own desktop system. Imo, the DAC is not too rolled off at all. You have the switch mode too on that DAC. I was in the smaller crowd that preferred BF 2/64 in NOS switch mode. Some liked the opposite, Schiit’s proprietary Mega Combo Burrito (MCB) filter switch mode better. I did not, my system is transparent and I could sense all etch. NOS switch mode in this multi-bit DAC is neat. I resold it in one day, was happy to let someone else try it. For the money, both member @hilde45 and I tried it felt its a solid buy. I gather some of the older Yggy versions might provide a softer presentation, but ask around. Those members over on head-fi.org are really tuned in to all of the Schiit DACs, much more than here on Agon, check there too. Best of Luck.

@moonwatcher not dark, that's for sure. I had come from some warmer dacs prior, and including an upgraded tube dac [different cap and tube options] too which was open but warmer too if that makes any sense. I needed a fill-in dac to use while I was deciding and eventually having another dac built a certain way (in the meantime) is how I ended up with the Schiit Bifront 2/64 multi-bit dac for a year or so. Also, I just wanted to try it for the entry price, and used it as a backup reference dac to other dacs. I found it to be quite neutral, open, with added nuance to the depth of detail in fact. Was not lush though.  Just plain neutral maybe. I'd rotate it in/out, and would say it's a bit more detailed than some dacs, coming with that newer TI multi-bit chip set in it, even with the filter switch.  Agree, if you want that extra finesse to the sound, I could see where many step to the Yggy. For me, I did want a little more warmth with a bit more lushness to the sound, and moved on.