SB Touch w/upgraded power supply: good next step?


I'm enjoying my SB Touch and so far using it stock, and taking analog out into my pre. As is it performs on par with my Rotel RCD1072, but want to take another step forward.

The Soundcheck mods are enticing, but for the time being I need to continue to use wireless and the Touch's screen, which are 2 big impact areas of that toolbox, so I'm thinking of waiting there a bit.

An outboard DAC is the logical upgrade, but more expensive. Maybe a Metrum Octave.

An upgraded power supply, like a Teddy Pardo, would run at around $300 and would be doable now. But how significant should I expect that upgrade to be if using analog out and stock settings? Should I go here now or wait a few months and get Soundcheck mods and the DAC first?

FWIW, I have 2 dedicated power lines, Oyaide outlets, upgraded power cables, Lamm LL2D, McIntosh MC275, B&W 804S, Rel sub.

Thanks!
lewinskih01

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I first used the Squeezebox Touch hardwired to my router and using its internal DAC and analog outs. I found the sound to be decent but not great.

I purchased the Eastern Electric DAC Plus and connected the Squeezebox to it using a coax cable. This was a remarkable improvement.

I did turn off some of the Squeezebox services but not all that were recommended, so just enough to operate it without much incovenience.

I am extremely happy with the sound from this inexpensive and simple music server.
IMO - The analog outs from the SBT are good enough for most streaming radio stations. There may be a couple of stations, like Linn Radio, that may warrant a dedicated DAC but not to go overboard if streaming is all you'll be doing.

My upgrade to a dedicated DAC really changed the entire listening experience when playing hi-rez audio files. This is true even though I'm using the wall-wart. I was lucky enough to have a spare dedicated circuit that was convenient to plug the SBT's wall-wart into. The outlet is also a PS Audio Soloist, so this setup may be helping the power supply situation without having to go linear or battery.
Lewinskih01 -

I too hold on to gear for a long time.

I own the latest Eastern Electric DAC Plus and love it. It's just around your price point. However, I'm not familiar with the Metrum. The DAC Plus can be push-button switched from Solid State to Tube and rolled for both (tube and op amps).
All of my amplification is tube.

I switched the DAC to solid state and I also performed a recommended tweak of removing the tube when switching to solid state. In both cases, I preferred the tube option, but I replaced the stock tube with a Psvane 12AU7.

With the prices of American and European tubes escalating, I decided to give the Psvane a try at a more affordable price. The results were stunning, and I'm sure that other 12AU7 types will do very well. Many times, another tube will improve certain characteristics while giving up something else. I could not identify any particular loss with the Psvane. It does run a little hot, so I'm not sure of its life expectancy. I also have a variety of American 12AU7 tubes that I will try as well, but I don't hurry anything, so more fun later.

Here's what I reported back to Bill of Morningstar Audio, the distributor of the DAC Plus:

...With the tube (Psvane) notes are held longer, so there is more information in the air between the instruments/vocals. Without the tube notes are cut off shorter, so I find the overall sound less believable and more digital. The resulting illusion, to me, is less satisfying...

The DAC Plus is my first modern DAC, but I did a lot of listening at the shows in Denver and Montreal which I attended. I also own an old Theta DS Probasic III that was an excellent DAC of its time.

The way that the digital markets are constantly reinventing themselves, I did not want to make a huge investment in a DAC that would quickly turn into an outdated Theta, for example. I was blown-over by how good the DAC Plus sounded for $1,000.

I would suggest that you keep on asking your questions and get all the advice possible, as there is little hope for auditioning and comparing the tons of really fine boutique products that are out there.