Running an External Phono with a Hovland HP-100


Since the Hovland HP-100 already has a MC Phono built-in, is it possible to add an external phono, maybe one of the better Audio Research models?

I'd like to do a valid compare, say the internal Hovland v.s. the new Audio Research Reference Phono; is this possible?
stickman451

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Stickman, Was this a P5xe or a P5x? You left out the "e", so I am wondering. What you have to remember is that all of these bits of expensive gear consist of tubes, resistors, capacitors, etc, on the inside. There is no magic in brand names. If you do a little reading on tube circuits, you will learn to appreciate design and implementation (triode vs solid state, single-ended vs balanced, etc, etc). Ultimately, these are the things that determine sound quality. For example, many, many tube preamps use the 12AX7 as the first amplification stage in a single-ended topology. This occurs before the signal is RIAA equalized. You can expect any such units, no matter who makes them, to be altered in sonics by altering the brand of 12AX7. Most such units will have the 12AX7 family sound, to one degree or another. It's all in the parts and circuit topology. If you did not know that the phono stage output was passing thru the linestage circuit or how to hook-up an outboard phono section, it indicates to me that you might want to educate yourself further before buying a second phono stage according to brand or hype or hearsay. Just my $.02.
I did not mean to belittle you in any way. For many years, my audiophilia took the same path that you are on. I am just saying that in the long run you will benefit (i.e., save a lot of money) by acquiring some basic knowledge of the circuit's design. What I also meant to imply is that there are a plethora of cookie-cutter products out there that all in the end use the 12AX7 in some sort of single-ended topology. If you want to try something that is likely to have a "different" sonic character, you might want to investigate balanced phono stages or phono stages that use a different sort of input gain stage, etc, etc. Specifically, if the Audio Research and the Hovland utilize similar topologies, I would look elsewhere for variety, rather than to purchase the AR. This is no knock on the AR taken by itself.

Did you use the Ayre in unbalanced or balanced mode? That device has a true balanced circuit, so you are not hearing it at its best if you use the "unbal" input and output. I have read elsewhere that its performance is subpar if used in that manner.
So I don't think you can use the bal inputs on the Ayre and the unbal outputs, both at the same time. I think the switches at the rear of the Ayre require you to choose between all bal (inputs and outputs) or all unbal. But if you can mix and match, I recommend you try the Ayre with bal input from the cartridge and the unbal output to your Hovland. The latter will be a necessary evil, because as you say the Hovland is unbal or single-ended. (In this case, the two terms mean the same thing.) If you used the Ayre in unbal mode throughout, you really did not hear it at its best. The same will probably apply if you try to run any of the balanced tube phono stages thru the Hovland linestage section. In that regard, try to find out whether the AR units are true balanced circuits or just provide a balanced XLR output for convenience. If the latter is true, then you are better off using the unbalanced or single-ended mode from cartridge thru to the amplifier. (The XLR or balanced output derived from an unbalanced circuit may introduce an extra buffer stage which often colors the sound and robs detail.)