@hbarrel You are very welcome
I updated my TN systems page with new pics of the room and the traps. I have smaller triangle bas traps in the rear corners also behind the Real Traps diffusers.
Room Treatments - ATS Corner Bass Trap
I have posted often my system’s week link is my listening room, a shared listening/living room. The configuration, a 20’ x 12’ room, with a 11’ x 14’ dining room in an L- configuration on the left and a hall on the right, is for the most part an open configuration. Therefore, there is adequate venting to prevent wave reinforcement and cancellation, or at least I thought. The room was untreated until now due to esthetic considerations and the WAF. I finally purchased and installed an ATS Corner Bass Trap today and there was an immediate improvement in the following SQ attributes:
So for years, I have underestimated the reinforcement and cancellation effects occurring in my room masking detail and I underestimated the positive effects that relatively inexpensive room treatments can bring. I still will long for a treated, dedicated listening room, but for now am very happy with the improvements realized today. Thanks to all that posted on the benefits of room treatments.
@hbarrel You are very welcome I updated my TN systems page with new pics of the room and the traps. I have smaller triangle bas traps in the rear corners also behind the Real Traps diffusers. |
jsalerno277 - congrats on your discovery that treatments can provide real substantive sound quality benefits. I am a bit surprised at how a single trap made so much of a difference that you listed, especially in an open concept room - I don't doubt your findings and would encourage you to expand your coverage as WAF, budget, and space allows. Absorption of bass energy helps:
Keep going!!! |
Agreed with @kevinzoe , although I have no experience with membrane traps. Filling your rear corners are top priorities for trapping, with as much as you can get in there loosely (using R19 or R13 type stuff, the fluffy kind) and then covering with enough fireproof material to keep the insulation from exiting the unit. And then if you can at least get your first reflections with 4" minimum, 6-8" preferred paneling, again as large as possible, you will see another giant difference. The thicker the panel, the lower the frequencies it will cover typically as far as absorption. It’s best to get an expert at somewhere like gik acoustics, or many of the other reputable acoustics companies to dial in your room. If you really want to go down the rabbit hole and get your system singing, get room EQ wizard, and a umik and check your frequency response curve on each channel, as well as your waterfall, rt60 graphs. Rooms account for a large portion of the sound you’re hearing because in most rooms, most of the sound you are hearing is indirect sound (sound coming from reflections and the room), vs direct sound (coming from the speaker directly to your ears). Physics! |
I recently was working with Yamaha Music (Canada) on determining if some pesky bass modes could be absorbed enough or if structural room changes were needed. When 9 membrane bass traps (6 GIK Scopus T40 units and 3 Studio Solution units) were added to the room and placed in corners where pressure was highest (think of drywall over exterior bricks/cinder blocks, not internal drywall walls) we reduced a 69Hz modal peak by 9dB!! And using a whack load of 6" thick GIK Monster traps with and without FlexRange and Tri-Traps, a 130Hz modal peak fell by 6.5dB in one channel and 8dB in the other channel. Avoiding the use of EQ was their goal so getting the right amount of Sabins (unit of measure of absorption) placed in the right spots was critical. |