room treatment gurus, please


This my friend's problem. The listening room is 16 x 16 with 13ft ceilings. It was built in the 1980s. One wall has two sliding wood doors, 8 ft high by 12 ft wide total. These doors separate two rooms. This  door is 12 inches behind the head of the listener. The opposite wall is all drywall. One side wall has another sliding door with two glass panels for room entry, total is 6ft x 6ft. The other side wall has a wood and tile fireplace with an ornate mantle. The speakers are Sonus Faber Amati Tradition. All electronics are MacIntosh. He complains about poor bass, and I don't think his system sounds near as good as it should.

Now, I know a square room is the worst, and that one should cover all smooth surfaces (all wood and glass), including the floor, but that's about it.

So I ask. What should be covered? How should it be covered? If we switch the wall behind the listeners head, will this have a significant impact? How should the problem be approached?

TIA

Bill

bill10907

I contacted GIK Acoustics and added the Tri-Trap Corner Bass traps per their recommendation.  I could not add side wall acoustic panels due to furniture placement. To my ears, the bass traps improved bass definition and overall imaging.  I have a nearfield setup due to my small listening space.  

Submit a request to GIK Acoustics with photos and all the information you posted here. Deal with the pros. That’s your best bet. 

I engaged Vicoustics to provide an acoustic treatment plan for my listening room. They orovided 3D diagrams and a list of their recommended products. This can get expensive so I sourced 2nd hand absorption panels, diffusers and bass traps. Your room is a huge part of the listening experience. I could not be happier with the result!

I suggest as the initial investigation and one that costs not too much monies a period of learning about the room and how the Speakers are able to couple to it.

A stool type chair and a increased length of Speaker Cables will allow for the repositioning of the Speakers and placing the stool at the correct listing point to enable a reasonably comfortable listen.

At each location Toe out and Toe in the Speakers to change how the sound is dispersed. The Stool can be placed nearer the speakers of further away to see how the dispersal of sound creates a sound that satisfies the listener.

It is well worth learning a little about the sound able to be produced in a room, before spending monies on somebody to make available similar learning using tools that are able to make the job a little easier, as well as create a data to show what ears are already reporting on. 

FYI I created a design for  my own room using my own ears and addition of DIY Produced Acoustic Controls, that really do work to my satisfaction. Visitors to the audio room are always impressed with the Speaker Coupling to the Space.

Yes I could have spent on a Professional Service and Commercial available Product to do something similar, but would it be slightly better or slightly worse? Does it really matter ? Improved is Improved and I certainly got improved.   

@pindac,

I agree with your assessment. There is nothing more satisfying than experimenting on your own and realizing the benefits of tweaking things here and there to realize greater outcomes. 
 

For my own personal philosophy, I have learned through trial and error that I much prefer to have strategically placed diffusion along with some absorption products to balance the room. I use old school Test Cd”s, Radio Shack sound pressure level meters, Rives Audio Professional audio test measuring kit, and a PAA audio measurement device. However, my ears tell me what is good overall, no matter the measurements. These tools are guides to help one understand the audio environment where you will be listening. Also, if I decide to use subs, I use a Velodyne SMS-1 sub EQ which is plugged in a tape loop on my Octave Jubilee preamp. 
 

I much prefer reverberation and ambiance over a less dry and less reverberating sound field. 
 

Can you please share your a sampling of your DIY acoustic controls? Would be interested to see what others are doing.